Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: ‘You get fired on the spot.’::Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

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-19 points

I do think it’s good to create a healthy culture that respects workers, but I don’t understand why being able to fire an employee is a bad thing

Imagine you’re not allowed to fire people you don’t like who you think are doing a bad job at work

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18 points

Yeah it’s not all or nothing though. You’re acting like outside the US it’s impossible to fire people. That’s simply not even remotely true.

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13 points

Indeed. That still happens. Just you have to have a valid reason to fire them. Not liking someone is a petty reason to fire someone. Not doing their job is another thing altogether.

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the “valid reason” is you don’t like them, why would we want to force people to work together who don’t like each other?

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That isn’t a valid reason to stop paying someone though.

Since they need that pay in order to survive.

So every developed nation requires employers to pay their fired workers a couple of months of pay in advance.

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You did well on the first one. Now you are just obviously trolling.

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It’s obviously not forbidden to fire people. You just can’t do it like that, because you woke up grumpy that particular morning. Employees are highly protected in France, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be fired.

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You just can’t do it like that, because you woke up grumpy that particular morning

That should be fine though, that’s freedom of association, why force people to work together who don’t want to do so?

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Because people require a job in order to survive in this capitalist hell scape.

If you want to fire them sure, but you will still need to pay them 2-3 months of wages so they can comfortably search for a new job.

Same with employees, if they want to quit they will need to stay 2-3 months so the employer has time to look for a replacement.

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I personally don’t find it fine. You’re talking as if everyone is equal meanwhile, most of the time, there is a subordination. People usually don’t say “I want to work with that guy because I think he’s nice”. Sometimes it’s “I need to work anywhere because I need to feed my children and simply survive”. Those people can’t live in fear of losing their job everytime their boss has a twisted testicle, they can’t afford being jobless. Their lives depend on it.

But it’s something quite cultural, that’s how we decided to build our society.

It has flaws though : corporations can become quite cautious when hiring someone, making sure they fit well and won’t cause any trouble.

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