The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he’s in isn’t accommodating his vegan diet.

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In these comments, People who:

  • think vegetarian is close enough to vegan.
  • don’t realise vegan items are no longer vegan if they’re for example, cooked in butter.
  • want prisoners to rot in jail from the inside out, literally.
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I don’t think prison should be punitive, but I REALLY don’t think jail should be punitive. You haven’t been proven guilty of anything when you’re in jail.

All of the food served in prison/jail is dogshit and it’s not ok. Edible food is a human right. People with ethically based diet restrictions should be protected the same way that religiously based diet restrictions are.

Belief in a make believe sky-daddy doesn’t make one persons ethical dietary choices more important than another’s. Maybe the Satanic Temple can step in and help out the incarcerated vegans. That seems up their alley.

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Yes from everything I hear American prisons are all around horrible (by first world standards). This doesn’t seem surprising.

You’re there to be punished by your freedom of movement being taken away. Not by being forced to eat inedible food.

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If prisons are going to get nutritious food, then school children need to get it first.

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Yes, you’re right. They should both get nutritious food. It’s not a competition. Everyone under care of the state should get nutritious, decent food. In fact even those that aren’t under care of the state should.

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Sysco provides the food to both in many cases.

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They both should, this should be the bare minimum for being a human existing in society.

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How about: at least in my town at police department holding cells, they make you pay and they go get takeout. There’s no legitimate reason to not offer a choice of takeout

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I’m hesitant to say PINO but there is definitely a cadre of folks who want (for example) food and shelter for the homeless and for their enemies to starve to death in a ditch.

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I think it has more to do with rich people getting away with murder because they are rich while homeless people getting the worst punishment for stealing a loaf of bread or sleeping on a bench.

And the rest of society getting sick and tired of it, so I see their sentiment.

I don’t believe in capital punishment though, let alone a death sentence.

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The thing is, if the rich are getting treated like this in prison, surely it’s going to be even worse for literally anyone else.

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When you consider “let X rot in jail” as “capital punishment”, count me in.

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Hell yeah there should be support for capital punishment.

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Do you really expect a jail to cook things in butter? If they could get away with it, they would probably cook things in waste oil from the next garage.

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True enough, but it was just an example. More likely something like mashed potato will have milk or other dairy. Even vegetarian nutriloaf might not qualify as vegan.

Point is not everything that starts out vegan ends up vegan on the plate.

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Most margarine isn’t vegan either.

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It isn’t? What do they put in there to make it non-vegan? The whole idea was to get rid of the expensive animal parts…

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Seriously, this comment section makes me want to leave Lemmy forever. Why would I build a community with these people?

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Unfortunately this isn’t just Lemmy, or even Reddit. People irl feel this way.

Actually, to Lemmy’s credit, I’ve seen way more pushback to that mentality here than I’ve seen anywhere else.

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It’s like Reddit all over again. Guess we shouldn’t have too high hopes for humanity.

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I will say that it gives me hope that so many people are pushing back in threads like this. I’ve been trying a lot of platforms in recent months, and places like Tildes, HackerNews, and even Beehaw seem to be better able to have constructive conversations about heated topics. So we’re not alone!

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