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You’re saying this but no you’re not.

The riskier mortgages are guaranteed by the government, that means everyone pays if people stop paying their mortgage.

Retirement for most owners without a pension fund depends on being able to sell their property, that’s also something the whole country would end up paying for through safety nets.

If prices crash that means even more easy to snatch properties for the richest, so even less supply.

The housing bubble bursting would lead to the same social crisis they had to go through in the USA, wishing for it to burst is wishing for people to die, more than are now because of the bubble.

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We really have to be taxing the hell out of the rich like we did in the “make Canada great again” days, if we want a cushion for this crash.

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Yeah, this.

A crash isn’t a bad thing if you can build a firewall against profiteering. Governments could buy property, instead of allowing the wealthy to, and governments could force the rich to take a haircut and/or tax the hell out them and then spend our way out of recession.

It won’t happen, but it isn’t impossible or even improbable.

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Except in the US it brought prices back down to “normal” levels. Their were still expensive but they remained more affordable than here.

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The housing situation in the USA and in Canada are different though. You would be shifting the cost from those able to snatch the good deals while the crash happens to the whole population having to pay back banks through increased taxes over decades.

Don’t forget all the job losses that come with that, can’t buy a cheap house if you don’t even have a job!

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Government decides who pay taxes. Shitty governments decide everyone pays the same. Good government redistribute.

In the early 20th century people responsible for crisis, bubbles and stuff were severly punished. It can be done.

Also, you should get familiar with the story of the boiling frog. Wishing things won’t get worse will only get you dead eventually.

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They remained more affordable, for a time. And then housing prices went right back through the roof.

I bought a foreclosed house in 2012 for ~280k. It had been purchased by the previous owner for about 480k.

I put about 150k into it, 100k the first year to make it a liveable property, and 50k or so over the next ten years.

I sold it last year for about 850k…

I then bought a new house that cost about 450k when it was built 4 years ago, for about 680k, in a less expensive market.

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Sorry, but depending on location prices bounced back and surpassed pre-crisis levels within few years in US. Same issue that many already highlighted - folks lost their houses during crisis to the ones who can afford it but they still need place to live. Population grows and so are the real estate prices. Investment firms are busy buying up properties and oh boy will they go wild this time, now that this turned into a very targeted industry. So those prices going down only means some people will lose their homes, others their jobs and corporate investors will gain big time. Selected few with sufficient financial cushion will weather it out and the cycle will repeat itself… because nobody builds housing to keep up with the pace of population growth. With a caveat: some rural areas are still underappreciated and if housing is what you seek - go rural, mind you job selection might be limites if any… so gotta be financially independent… oh guess what? Another pass for the average folk. So yeah… new construction is the only way out of it. Bursting the bubble will hurt folks below median a lot more than status quo. (mind you escalation of institutional investors activity would be as tragic as bursting the bubble).

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I’m ready for it to pop and the consequences thereof. I know I will have to shoulder some of the burden. Too bad that businesses love to privatize gains and nationalize risks, but that’s the mess we’re in.

To copy another of my comments, I don’t buy this “but the economy” line. It smacks of “too big to fail”, and I think that occasional failure is necessary and healthy.

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We’re not talking a dip in the stock market.

We’re taking millions of jobs just disappearing, people’s savings gone, most banks going bankrupt…

I know it’s hard to imagine, but the housing bubble can’t burst in a vacuum and in our country it’s taking everything with it and could mean decades to come back to some form of normalcy.

Heck, you would probably not get to enjoy the potential drop in price because you would have had to move to another country to find a job, just like the Quebecois had to do at the beginning of last century.

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