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And all of that sucks, except not including a charger.

It’s complaining about the one thing that actually makes sense, and letting everything else slide.

Pack-in chargers and cables always suck. I don’t get how people use them, especially those cheap rubber 1m long cables. Utterly useless.

And chargers with one port? Who shells out 1 grand for a phone and has just one device? You can get an excellent charger with 4 ports and support for all the stupid proprietary protocols for like 30 bucks. Why would I use a pack-in one?

Complain about lack of replaceable batteries, headphone jacks, expandable storage, complain about Google’s monopoly and data harvesting in phones, not that they don’t give you some useless extra crap.

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We need to force them to improve on that front then not excuse them for cutting costs.

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Pack-in chargers and cables always suck. I don’t get how people use them, especially those cheap rubber 1m long cables. Utterly useless.

Any decent company will give you a high-spec charger and a decent cable with your fucking $1000+ phone.

Deciding to ditch the charger is only to inflate their bottom line, especially if you look at what they then sell the charger for separately.

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None ever does or has. Only boutique brands like Razer may give you a braided cable, but nobody ever gives you a cable longer than 1 metre, never mind a charger with more ports.

But let’s say they do. Let’s say they include a selection of 3 good cables, and a charger with 4 ports that supports all the competing protocols, and throw in wireless charger too. Well congrats, now every phone, tablet, watch, camera and speaker is 50 $€£ more expensive, comes in a box twice as large, and we’re back to the problem of having too many useless chargers that stay in boxes.

Btw I use magnetic cables anyway. So whatever they include cable-wise is useless waste for me.

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I think your definition of decent charger&cable is just different from me then I guess.

I expect to get a charger that has the fast charging for the phone (not necessarily the top spec, but high enough) and a usable cable, let’s say a 0.5 to 1 meter, that can also do basic data transfer.

If I wanted a charger with 4 ports I’d buy it. If I wanted a braided cable I’d buy it. I don’t want either - but I want a charger that I know works fast enough with my phone, and it becomes my travel charger. Everything else I can manage.

This will be less of a problem as power delivery becomes the norm, but most people probably don’t have a decent PD charger several times over at home. Worst case you’ll have an extra charger where an old one dies, which seems to be common especially with some peoples’ cables.

Or, you know, alternatively do actually discount the phone by $60 or however much they act like it costs (it’s obviously way less than that, but chargers are still a significant expense largely because they need to have many different SKUs for different regions so the logistics are more complicated).

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