The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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32 points

It’s not about them. It’s the children who find the spent ammo later.

This crap is the reason that there are birth defects spikes anywhere the US military operates.

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Ok but the alternatives are not environmentally conscious either, finally the people who’s land it is should be the ones making choices about the conditions of that land

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The alternative bring tungsten? It’s very stable so anything besides eating a spent rod isn’t going to have effects. If it’s in the air it’ll just be inert. Even if it gets in your lungs it’ll be like any other dust. DU on the other hand would keep emitting radiation internally.

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But which people? Government or the people who actually own the land?

And I guess, their favourite choice of “Don’t use any weapons on my land and just clear off voluntairily” is not an option.

I don’t get why people hate on the Ukraine for using weapons to defend themselves. Not like they chose to be attacked.

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The alternative is to stop using people of Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia.

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Then why don’t you ask Russia to withdraw, wouldn’t that be easier?

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The people of Ukraine seem to have a somewhat different view on the matter

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Lol the people of ukraine are fighting against a war of aggression from Russia. That’s it.

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Is ammo made from lead that much better? I honestly don’t know. Sure the radiation sucks but Uranium, at least the isotope they’re sending is “barely” radioactive. It’s the same Uranium people had in their plates etc. The toxicity is probably the far more relevant factor but I don’t know how Uranium compares to lead.

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Depleted uranium is not really that radioactive. Everything is technically radioactive eventually though. Depleted uranium is what’s left behind when you seperate the radioactive stuff out. It’s a heavy metal still, so isn’t good for you, but heavy metals will always be involved. Trying to have a war using only healthy, organic, ethically sourced munitions isn’t going to happen.

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5 points

It’s nothing to do with radioactivity, it’s the toxicity that comes with most heavy metals.

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2 points

There isn’t radiation in Depleted uranium.

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This makes sense.

I imagine there’s a lot more reasons for birth defect spikes post US mil ops in addition to this. The military isn’t exactly an environmentally conscious operation. ☠️

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5 points

Agent orange is what plants crave

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Sure, burn pits and other crap will help.

But this kind of ammo, kids will find and hang on to. They bring it home, add it to their collection of other cool shit they’ve scavenged…and then their brothers and sisters are born with malformed limbs, mishaped heads, etc.

There have been a lot of stories written about it over the years. The one I read was specifically about Iraq I believe, but it was a while ago.

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To be fair, the impact of DU is mostly because of heavy metal poisoning, not radioactivity.

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You’re acting like being near this stuff is akin to standing in Chernobyl while it just isn’t true

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The amount of Ukrainians dying right now will pale in comparison to those effected by the munitions.

The controversy around depleted uranium rounds is way overblown.

Even in Iraq the evidence is super inconclusive. And yes birth defects rose however the entire country basically collapsed for years and nothing clearly indicates it was the DU used.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s nasty stuff. But this is war, more people are getting killed by bombs then any DU related cancer can cause.

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In Basra the rate of leukemia in children rose dramatically and that is too specific of a disease to not be linked to DU exposure due to the heavy use of it in surrounding tank battles.

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How do you you it’s not linked to any of the other hundreds of dangerous chemicals?

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  1. correlation ≠ causation. 2) if the disease is caused by DU, is it due to the radioactivity or the fact that DU is a heavy metal?
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We have to remember that Russia caused this war, however. So they also caused the depleted uranium being a possible health risk for future ukrainian children.

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