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-26 points

Yup, they want to live in fantasy land where they benefit from other people’s work, but do none themselves. They’re still children, but most of them will eventually grow up.

The rest will become communists, which is something I’ve been seeing a lot of on Lemmy.

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Let’s not forget that communists do work. Not saying you said otherwise, just a reminder.

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-17 points

Someone should tell the wannabe communists that they’d still have to work.

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4 points

Who let the boomers in here? Why are we talking about communists?

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40 points

Yeah the 40+ hours of manual labor I do producing 3 $25,000 machines in a week while being paid $1000 is totally not work at all.

Critiquing a system of exploitation is only possible if one is lazy and worthless, not something that typically and historically comes from those most oppressed under a given system.

Refusal to blindly submit to coercive hierarchies is a sign of immaturity, while blind obedience to that system makes you a real man. Only people who blindly accept their and the exploitation of their friends and family are adults.

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-3 points

What’s the plan then?

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-14 points

So go start your own business producing these $25,000 machines if it is that easy. Go on then. Clearly you have everything figured out. Your are supposedly worth $75k a week but you’re only getting paid $1k a week. Start your own company and even if you have yourself 10x the salary, you’d still have one of the most profitable companies on the planet.

If it’s that easy, then why aren’t you doing it?

Is it maybe because there are dozens of other people involved in building these machines? It is because the labor to build something doesn’t cover the cost to design and engineer it. And test it. And logistics. And the costs for any regulator certification these machines must go through.

Loving hearing people with all the answers only to find out they really have no answers.

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12 points

Maybe because have a gigantic money head start is basically a must and not something that the mere mortal can have because of the actual thing that they are criticizing it?

You can be rich, put that money somewhere where someone “manages” it for you, fuck off to a desert island for 5 years and when you come back you are richer than before. And you didn’t do jack shit for that money. Do you think that is fair? And most importantly where do you think that money “is coming from”? The answer is that it is skimming from all the hardworking people that generate profit for the company while only getting paid a small fraction of that.

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I have built my own business, however it was impossible to run equitably under current structures of regulation, so I sold it.

But no, there are not dozens of people involved in building the machines at our 10 person company. There are 2. There are 2 involved in designing them, and three involved in ongoing support for the units, a cost which is itself covered entirely through service contracts. The majority of our revenue is taken by the corporation that bought the company with the entire crew together, including management, receiving less than 50% of the money made post costs for our efforts. Our revenue supports the multi billion dollar stock buybacks the owning corporation does each year, and the $4 million dollar salary of their chief executive.

You obviously don’t work in manufacturing, because regulatory certification costs are one time payments done at the inception of each model, not an ongoing cost for each unit.

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3 points

Exactly. This is what I chose to do, I took a small loan of seven million dollars from my father and started my own business, and that’s what everybody should do in my opinion.

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26 points

Complete strawman. No one wants to sit around and do nothing.

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13 points

fucking about and doing whatever I want!

That doesn’t sound like doing nothing ;)

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2 points

Hold my beer.

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1 point

I love to sit around every once in a while, nothing wrong with that. Sometimes I sit in quiet contemplation for days at a time, other times I just go golfing or fishing or take a vacation to Bora Bora to sit on the beach and drink. If you want to do these things it’s not hard, start a successful business or make a smart real estate investment!

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If you want to do these things it’s not hard, start a successful business or make a smart real estate investment!

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-3 points

Strawman? You either want to work or you don’t. Which one is it?

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1 point

Of course I want to work. Saying people just don’t want to work is absurd.

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7 points

You obviously don’t have the slightest idea what communism is

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5 points

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live without working. I already do this as a landlord and a business owner/investor. Maybe when you grow up you will be successful like me and understand the virtues of not grinding away all day to make somebody else rich, instead, let other people make you rich.

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4 points

Or you could try reading what was actually said properly, rather than making up something different that wasn’t said by anyone except you.

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-3 points

So they will stay children forever because that is what a communist is someone who is emotionally stunted

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-8 points

So spot on, dude.

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