What would be a good sign coming out of such people?

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Okay but…

There’s really no reason not to unless you just give zero shits about the damage a loose cart can do.

That’s exactly the kind of sign you want: it’s a person who thinks “it won’t affect me because I’m leaving, so it’s not my problem.”

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Actually as I was explaining to another person, unfortunately, there is a reason.

I am living in Tampa, Florida, the nearby walmart to my house, has a huge parking lot, but a car corral near the entrance and ONE on a huge damn parking lot.

The thing is, while I am not against returning carts when possible in anyway, what can I do if I park my car all the way on the other side on the parking lot and not near the cart corrosal? And the reason I park there is because it’s one of the few parking spots available in a busy day? I am sorry but in such cases, people will just leave the carts on the side and leave with their car.

Not to mention, the damn sun here, it gets absolutely hot here at times, even I don’t see myself walking halfway to the other part of the parking lot just to leave a cart when I already walked all the way from the entrance carrying all of my groceries, I don’t see myself returning in that case.

Again we need to think in practical real-life scenario, so not only should people start returning carts, stores that don’t have enough cart returning points in parking lots especially, should increase them.

I am not saying I don’t return carts because that actually doesn’t apply to me, atleast lately, as I have been mainly ordering stuff online mostly.

I do also want to make it clear, I am in no way giving justifications for those who make these basic mistakes without a genuine reason, I don’t ever see myself not returning a cart when there is indeed a fairly nearby cart corrosal, and unfortunately, there are people who won’t return their cars even if they have a nearby car corral, and i’m not arguing for them!

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Yeah… this sounds like someone who is making excuses for their bad behavior instead of owning their mistake and correcting it.

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Yeah I already made myself clear, I don’t even do groccery shoppings in-person anymore, but Im leaving this there now 🤷

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I’ve crossed a parking lot and a street in the snow to return it before. If I pushed it there I’m getting it back. Simple as.

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Do you think it’s fair to think that just because you are able to, others can too? I’ve been living in Canada before moving to florida, opposite weather here, extremely hot, I try to stay cool as much as possible, it’s good that you “crossed a parking lot at a street” (assuming that is long distance, don’t extactly understand the meaning here), but I am not you man, different people, scenarios, circumstances.

I know people are going to downvote this for me lol, again I ain’t justifying for those who actually don’t return when there is actually a cart corral nearby, but I am not trying to justify my own actions or argue for those who make this mistake without a genuine reason wantedly, in-fact as I’'ve mentioned in several other comments in this thread, I do online shopping mostly these days, so this does not even apply to me.

I am simply trying to discuss from another not so popular perspective here in this thread.

I am also wondering if people have different definitions of what “bad” could be, because to me, this is more about lack of responsibility and ignorance when you are able to return a cart, but you still don’t. If I saw someone doing this without a genuine reason like I have stated before, I don’t think that’d still make them a bad as a person, I’d consider them not so responsible and kindly ask them to return it.

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Not to mention, the damn sun here, it gets absolutely hot here at times, even I don’t see myself walking halfway to the other part of the parking lot just to leave a cart when I already walked all the way from the entrance carrying all of my groceries, I don’t see myself returning in that case.

Lost me here, nope, nooooope nope nope nope. The weather is the least justifiable excuse – Someone has to walk all that way to return that cart in the hot sun if you don’t. If anything, making someone else do it is worse because of that weather.

I also saw you throwing out “but they have employees who do that” in another part of the thread. You wouldn’t throw trash on the ground instead of walking it to a can just because a place has a janitor, I’m sure. It’s exactly the same logic, and the reason you wouldn’t ruin a janitor’s day is the same reason you shouldn’t ruin a cart collector’s day.

I get that your local shop sucks for only having one corral. I really, truly do. But you know what I do when my closest store has practices I can’t deal with? I don’t make someone else clean up after me, I take my money elsewhere.

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Lost me here, nope, nooooope nope nope nope. The weather is the least justifiable excuse – Someone has to walk all that way to return that cart in the hot sun if you don’t. If anything, making someone else do it is worse because of that weather.

Interesting, you do realize the employee who collects the carts get them when the store closes, hence at night? It would make 0 sense to do that in the morning because customers will keep coming.

I also saw you throwing out “but they have employees who do that” in another part of the thread. You wouldn’t throw trash on the ground instead of walking it to a can just because a place has a janitor, I’m sure. It’s exactly the same logic, and the reason you wouldn’t ruin a janitor’s day is the same reason you shouldn’t ruin a cart collector’s day.

This is a very bad example and a comparison, why? If I have trash, even if there is not a garbage bin nearby, I can keep it with me until I find one or just take it with me to home and throw it there.

Now with carts, that’s a whole different story, I wish there was a machine where it could carry it for me until I reach to the whole other side of the parking lot, in a very busy moving parking lot with cars, but such magical machine doesn’t exist.

Companies like Walmart earn millions and billions of dollars, maybe they should be installing more cart return points as the customers are the people who are keeping them in business.

I get that your local shop sucks for only having one corral. I really, truly do. But you know what I do when my closest store has practices I can’t deal with? I don’t make someone else clean up after me, I take my money elsewhere.

I already countered the point that I am making someone else do that for me, because first of all, they are just doing their job, and I am not being disrespectful here, but even if you may be okay dealing with the inconvenience the lack of cart return points, I am not, you can’t expect everyone to be okay with something just because you are.

Regarding taking my money elsewhere, that’d be travelling twice as much, which is dooable, I have a car, but that just makes 0 sense, i’m wasting double the time of mine, and there is no guarantee walmart has enough cart return points there too, considering another person said walmart has been removing them on california, if they are doing that there, then I don’t expect it to be any better.

Also, asking me to do that for a damn cart, seriously? And the employee is just doing their job, they will do it anyways even if I go or not, and please, don’t compare that again with trash, it’s a whole different story, because you make it sound like I am the type of person who throws trash on the ground wantedly near a place where there is a garbage can, so I can watch the janitor pick it, that is crazy.

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Aldi has entered the chat.

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I actually took the five minutes to look at all 10 Walmart stores in Tampa on Google Earth, and I can see more than one cart corral from space… How are you missing them in person?

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Sigh, I live near Tampa, I don’t live there, not in the main city/area (outer part near to Tampa for added context. I don’t think Ill give my exact location here though.

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So if the cart corral was in you immediate vicinity you would bother to return it?

You could just carry the groceries through the store and not even use the cart at all…

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Or maybe it’s because I have a special needs child and I can’t always leave them alone, even for a minute or two?

When you make snap judgments based on initial appearance, that’s precisely the kind of error you can make.

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What error, exactly? If someone makes a choice and doesn’t take responsibility for that choice, there’s no error in judgment calling that person irresponsible. Mitigating circumstances like a person’s childcare situation are only mitigating circumstances because there was irresponsibility in the first place to mitigate. It’s still irresponsibility. There was no error.

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. Mitigating circumstances like a person’s childcare situation are only mitigating circumstances because there was irresponsibility in the first place to mitigate. It’s still irresponsibility.

I took the cart into the store to shop with my cognitively disabled child. This was a responsible decision.

Due to my child’s medical disability and changing circumstances resulting in a behavior meltdown, I had to take him back to the car and stay with him, to prevent elopement that could put him and others at risk. This was a responsible decision. Due to the changing circumstances, I can’t return the shopping cart to a particular location.

At no point do I abdicate responsibility. My first responsibility is to the safety of my child, and others who might suffer if he elopes. If you think I’m a bad person who “gives zero shits” because I put that first, then I call that error.

If you want to live in you self-righteous bubble and judge people from afar without knowing jack squat about their circumstances, I call that error. I’m sure my situation is not unique; issues must come up all the time with children, pets, the elderly that necessitate putting a shopping cart aside and attending to the needs of others, and it’s not always possible to return the shopping cart.

I can’t stop you from making an error, of course, but I’d hope than when the error is explained to you, you’d commit to avoiding it.

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Red flags aren’t always accurate. That’s the point, it’s a quick gut check, not a foolproof way to analyze someone’s worth. Your neighbor who stares too long and had red stains on his shirt could be a surgeon with myopia, but there are some red flags.

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Then we should probably call it a “red flag” instead of a “dead giveaway” (per post title) :-)

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