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they chose the smallest thing they could do

They initially chose a thing that would have marginal impact on consumers’ behaviour, yes. Starting in October 2023, people will no longer be able to buy plastic cutlery, plates, bowls, trays, balloon sticks, and other items.

Which items would you nominate for an immediate ban in addition?

Regarding consumers v producers - they literally just stopped producers selling this stuff. What do you mean?

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Stopping a producer selling it in a country is putting the onus on the producer.

I don’t think the narrative of producer v consumer is particularly helpful. Any regulation that hits the producer will also hit the consumer.

I’d be all for a ban on plastic bottles, but you need proper glass bottle deposit schemes in place first

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How much less talking about the consumers responsible is appropriate? Or do you think people shouldn’t talk about it at all?

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why do you think the producers are producing these things? Because consumer demand. If we stopped purchasing these things, they wouldn’t produce them. They only produce them because that’s where the money is.

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