Alternatively, if your current phone doesn’t have a headphone jack, do you wish it did?

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Your argument is irrational. So because Ford makes terrible quality cars all cars are bad? I mean. If we can’t trust the company that made the first industrially made car, then who can we trust? After all, there’s so very little that can go wrong with a bicycle or ones own legs.

I talked about Sony because YOU said you had problem with them. Where you admit that you bought it very close after launch where not many reviews had come out.

You think wired headsets can’t get fucked by faulty drivers? Have you ever had an issue with your audio drivers as a whole? I have. Doesn’t matter if you use wired or wireless then.

I’m telling you point blank. There are good products where it works seemless between different devices. But you just won’t have it cause you had a bad experience once with a poor purchase from your end.

If you wanna use wired by my guest. More products on the shelf for me. But your stance against Bluetooth as a whole is ridiculous. Shall we say wired headsets are garbage because what it the wire gets damaged? Man cable close to the the male connection always end up breaking! Terribly unreliable!

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In all my life I’ve never had a problem with wired headset not working due to driver issues. Sure there were the occasional overall sound card issues, but those were dating back to the Windows 9x days. Also, theoretically and statistically speaking, a wireless setup has more parts and more complexities, so it’s more likely to fail.

There are good products where it works seemless between different devices

Citation needed. And I repeat my previous question - how exactly is one supposed to discover these set of devices? What if you say use a particular model of Thinkpad and the device wasn’t tested against it? I doubt there exists a database somewhere that has list of every wireless headset tested against every Bluetooth capable device. So ultimately it’s up to the luck of draw, and that’s not a very good user experience. Whereas with wired, I can he 100% sure a wired headset will work if a device has the matching aux jack.

Also, the wire getting damaged isn’t really a problem, any decent wired headset would have a replaceable wire, so you can always swap it out with any standard TRS/TRRS cable and you’re good to go. Whereas with wireless, the battery is almost guaranteed to degrade after a few years, and it can be really hard or even impossible to replace, depending on the model.

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Aha… so now that it comes to wired, the “how are you supposed to know” doesn’t apply anymore?

You bought a shitty wireless and use that to hate on the entire protocol.

I’ve bought bad wired ones where the wire breaks easily, but the same logic doesn’t seem to apply there for you.

Any decent wired headset has easily replaceable cables?

Any decent wireless won’t have the problems you’ve mentioned. And the battery is not going to be a problem for many many years. My boss ones are on their fourth year. Still get out 7-8 hours of non stop usage which is more than enough for me.

But sure. They do degrade. That’s factually true and inevitable. It’s part of the price for the convenience of not having to deal with a cable.

But you hit the nail on the head yourself. “Any decent headset”. Same thing can be applied to wired, as wireless. Buy decent products and you won’t have issues.

“How are you supposed to know” goes for both too. You can’t tailor your argument to only work for one type and ignore it for the other.

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You bought a shitty wireless and use that to hate on the entire protocol.

The WH-1000XM5 isn’t a shitty wireless headphone, it has issues but I wouldn’t call it shitty. If it really was that shitty then it wouldn’t have a positive rating on sites like Amazon, WhatHiFi, Soundguys etc. In saying that, I do consider it worse than a wired headphone, but that I believe is because of the limitations of current wireless technology. Thankfully it also has a wired mode which works fine, and the ANC works well too, so it’s not completely useless to the point that I’d call it “shitty”. It certainly is flawed, and annoying at times.

I’ve bought bad wired ones where the wire breaks easily, but the same logic doesn’t seem to apply there for you.

That’s because wires are cheap and easy to repair or replace. What will you do when a wireless headphones breaks or doesn’t work as intended? The only realistic option is to replace it, which will either create more e-waste, or just be a PITA in general, trying to find another headphones that work.

Any decent wired headset has easily replaceable cables?

Of course. I’m not taking about those cheapo $2 headsets that you’d find in a dollar store.

Any decent wireless won’t have the problems you’ve mentioned

But mine did though, and also, lithium batteries degrade over time, and that is an undeniable fact. It’s also an undeniable fact that it’s extremely difficult or even next to impossible to replace the battery on most of these headphones.

Still get out 7-8 hours of non stop usage which is more than enough for me.

Good for you, but that’s not enough for me. Every now and then I take a 16+ hour flight (with maybe a 6-10 hr halt), so that battery life isn’t going to cut it. And with most of these headphones, you can’t use them while charging either.

Buy decent products and you won’t have issues.

And my original point still stands. How exactly is one supposed to figure out what’s a decent wireless headset? The WH-1000XM5 is still rated very highly on pretty much every website. By all definitions, it’s supposed to be a decent headset. If you’ve got some sort of secret website or method to determine if a headset is decent or not, I’m all ears.

“How are you supposed to know” goes for both too. You can’t tailor your argument to only work for one type and ignore it for the other.

Not really, because my experience is primarily with wired headphones, so I’ve already got a winning formula for selecting decent wired headphones - the ones which have a replaceable wire are decent, anything beyond that would be nitpicking on the audio quality like audiophiles do, or minor things like ear fit and noise isolation etc - but all that would boil down to personal preference. On the other hand, I don’t have a working formula for picking decent wireless headphones, so if you do, please share.

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