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Police can and will ask you as many incriminating questions as they want whenever they want without mentioning anything about rights. They can even pull you aside and privately question you without Miranda rights. Miranda rights only apply under specific circumstances, which cops will purposefully avoid as much as possible.

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LukeMedia@lemmy.world

3 points

1 year ago

If you are arrested or detained, they have to read you your Miranda rights before questioning you, otherwise your responses will have limited use in court due to the exclusionary clause. What they can do, and I believe is important to be more specific about, is question you without arresting or detaining you. If you aren’t arrested or detained, they don’t need to read you your rights, but once they are done questioning, they can then detain you and use your responses against you.

Key takeaways: police are not required to read your Miranda rights if you are not currently in custody. Police are not required to read your Miranda rights to arrest you. Police are required to read you your Miranda rights if you are in custody and being interrogated. If they do not read your rights, your responses during interrogation will have limited use in court. As always, the best thing to do, is invoke your 5th and lawyer up.

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Vent@lemm.ee

3 points

1 year ago

Thanks for taking the time to write this! It’s valuable information everyone should know.

To reiterate for others reading: police will question you under the heavy implication that you have no choice (you do) without technically detaining you in order to avoid Miranda rights. After questioning, they can then officially arrest/detain you, still without Miranda rights, because they already got everything they needed before that point.

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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

All this is a path to a police state.

In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

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