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Sure, we coudl go back to washing powder in boxes, using fountain pens, go back buying fruit loose from greengrocers, make our own yogurt, visit a creamery with a glass jar to buy cream, and get rid of most ready meals. I think “easily” is rather under-estimating the level of disruption it would cause the average person

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Have you never seen a cardboard carton of juice or milk?

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Yes. And for the most part, those are lined with a very thin plastic skin - which is what makes recycling difficult. I didn’t mention milk or juice because glass bottles would be the obvious answer.

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You know, people have bought milk from farmers long before they invented plastic packaging…

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Yeh. Now scale that to New York or London. I think you are stuck with glass bottles in a refrigerator

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Tbh I think you are overestimating the disruption, lots people do already buy washing powder in cardboard boxes(it’s also a better product BC you buy it in bigger volumes and you can measure out the exact right amount for your machine and water hardness), picking your fruit from a loose box in the supermarket and putting into your shopping cart in a paper bag or a bag you bring yourself is also super normal, why would you have to make your own yougert? Why would you need to go to a creamry for cream rather than use the supermarket glass bottle return scheme used for milk? I feel like I should note that there a lot of food-safe resins and waxes that can liquid-proof containers that aren’t actualy prohibitively expensive but a bit more expensive and currently less widely produced than plastics. But considering what we’re doing to the planet that sacrifice is negligable

Yeah the pre-portioned and plated ready meals you buy from the fridge section would probably stop being thing, but there also food-bar things that serve a very similar product

Obviously life would change a bit and it wouldn’t be painless but I really think people overestimate it and something absolutely has to change

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Thank you for this optimistic take. Appreciated and thought provoking

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