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You’re still relying on old information. He clarified this. Starlink was never active over crimea. He was asked to activate it and said no as that was part of the restrictions on the deployment and would have been breaking the terms that clarified it as an act of war from the west.

He didn’t shut them off. Access was never active in that region.

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“Raytheon never deactivated their missiles, they just don’t work over the target.”

That’s deactivating them dummy. Where do you think Ukraine is going with their Starlinks? Disneyland?

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Missiles and satellite arrays have no similarities in the way they technologically function. So this argument doesn’t actually hold any water. Elon musk is the operator of the starlink. Ukraine does not operate starlink satellites. Ukraine operates the missiles we GIVE to them. Meaning the baton of ownership has been passed off from the united states to Ukraine. The Ukrainian operators then have the autonomy to do with that as they see fit. This is why we give Ukraine guns and bullets but we dont give them the human soldier to fire them. Because this implicates direct US involvement in an offensive strike against Russia. In June 2023 starlink won contract with the pentagon. Meaning elon musk and starlink are acting as agents of the united states government and as such as bound by very similar rules of engagement that the normal US military is. The difference between giving them missiles and starlink is that we can’t just say “here are your very own satellites that you have the keys and drivers wheel to and they belong to you now”

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Over Ukrainian territory. For defensive purposes. Where it was originally agreed for. Crimea hasn’t been Ukraine for years (even though it should be). Offensives into Russia were not part of any operational original deals.

It’s not deactivating if it was never live there.

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The individual base station (or whatever) has its service deactivated when it goes to Crimea, which is internationally recognized as Ukrainian territory.

No one but Russian bootlickers think Crimea is part of Russia.

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Crimea is in Ukraine.

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You do know those starlinks move over the planets surface, right?

The only way to not have them active over a certain area (excluding the poles) is by deactivating them when they fly over.

Either Elmo doesn’t know how his own planet wide network works, or he is lying.

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You do realize starlink has always had regional and location based activation for multitudes of reasons. Including laws of said countries.

Yes. It’s deactivated over crimea. It always was.

Similar to how it stopped functioning if you tried to use it in international waters.

If you get starlink location of use is included in the setup. Which is why you can’t just slap it onto a boat or something. (though they do now sell a starlink with that functionality)

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Can you cite this? If you’re right, I’d be interested in knowing more

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