A gun rights group sued New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) and other state officials on Saturday over an emergency order banning firearms from being carried in public in Albuquerque.

The National Association for Gun Rights, alongside Albuquerque resident Foster Haines, filed suit just one day after Grisham announced the public health order temporarily suspending concealed and open carry laws in the city.

The group argued that the order violates their Second Amendment rights, pointing to the Supreme Court’s decision last year in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen.

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Public Safety should always come first.

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I don’t agree, there are plenty of accepted risks, and there are many cases where public safety could be prioritized at the expense of individual liberties. COVID is a recent example, extremely stringent lockdowns, freedom of movement suspensions, etc would likely decrease deaths as in Australia.

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Fine. No vehicles, no candles, no walking around without a helmet on. Public safety is number one!

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Vehicles and candles have uses that are not “I want to kill”. Guns dont.

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Guns do in fact have other uses. Namely self defense, which while yes some killing may be involved in defending oneself with a firearm, “want” is a liiiiitle far since most would rather just not be in a life or death situation that would necessitate armed self defense, though assuredly they are glad to be able to use it to “not die” as opposed to “dying by the attacker’s hands.”

Also hunting, USPSA, IDPA, etc.

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Vehicles require licenses and you are regulated where you can drive. Many, MANY fire codes have been written for home goods, furnishings and house materials to prevent fires from common things like candles. You must wear a helmet on bicycles or motorcycles (and other things similar) in most states.

So, yes?

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And you aren’t regulated on where you can shoot? What accessories you can have (state dependant)? How long your barrel can be wothout paying a $200 tax for no reason that effectively just limits the poor and disenfranchised?

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…And you think that there isn’t an entire federal agency devoted largely to regulating firearms…? Spoiler: the BATF exists, but there are limits on what they can do. This is beyond the scope of their power, because they can’t violate the constitution and court precedent.

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Well. That’s a dumb take on it.

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So is talking in absolutes.

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The rest of US should follow suit

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The problem is that “Public Safety” is an arbitrary metric. A Governor can’t strip citizens of Constitutional rights under the guise of some perceived “Public Safety” concern. It’s a complete violation of the Constitution.

Put simply: this is a horrible look for Democrats. Especially for a party that compared Trump to Hitler 24/7. This is what actual tyranny looks like. A single leader unilaterally stripping away rights from their citizens due to a self-declared “emergency”.

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It’s a complete violation of the Constitution.

I think you might be over reaching there, unless all these concealed and open carry folk were members of a “well regulated militia” and nobody noticed… There are plenty of otherwise “infringing” restrictions on bearing arms; you can’t point a gun at a cop just because your right to bear arms is enshrined in the second amendment, you can’t wheel a functioning howitzer with you wherever you go. You can’t own a sawn-off shotgun.

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Ahh one of you “well regulated” types, eh? You do understand how the english language works, correct?

“A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.”

Now, who has the right to keep and eat food in this above scenario, “the people” or “a well balanced breakfast?”

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You are arguing the point but missing the context.

The Governor decided to do this unilaterally using a “Public Health Emergency”. This is not in regards to a bill passed by both chambers of New Mexicos Legislative Branch. This was the sole decision of a single person. The Executive Branch is detailed with carrying out the orders of the Legislature. They do not create Laws. That is what she is trying to do.

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Gun homicide rates arent arbitrary

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Is it gun homicide rates or violent crime rate that is used for determining where carrying is restricted?

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Neither are abortion rates. You’d support a governors ability to end all abortion in a state under a public health emergency?

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You don’t understand the Constitution. Those tights come with restrictions. It’s part of the text.

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This is going to court. Let’s see who understands the constitution more.

To be clear- you’re saying this will 100% hold up in court?

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Slippery slope, this shows other states they can do the same thing towards other rights that you might not like. Next thing you know it’s the wild west with each state doing what they want.

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