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Aww man it’s actually a bummer to hear so many people are disliking the game. This has been the first game in a while where I’ve gotten hooked. I love the RPG elements in the game and the story has been brilliant. I’ve enjoyed games recently like Ragnarok and Control but this is the first one where I’m excited to just get back and sucked into the world. The last Bethesda game I played was actually Fallout 3 over a decade ago. It makes sense as Mass Effect is my favorite franchise and this feels like an evolution of that. My perfect game would probably be Starfield with ME: Andromeda combat.

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Aww man it’s actually a bummer to hear so many people are disliking the game.

… Mostly Positive.

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Out of curiosity, have you played BG3 ? It seems that most people who don’t like the game are coming to starfield right from BG3 and those who do have not played it. BG3 is now just the bar that AAA story telling is held to and anyone who has experienced it is having a hard time with the story of other games.

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I’m playing Baldurs Gate 3 with friends and Starfield singleplayer. And I am enjoying both.

They aren’t the same game, even though they both rely on story and some aspects of the game are the same (like coming up with your own character and wanting to see how the story affects them)

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Not gonna lie, I’m not a huge fan of turn based combat anymore. I feel like I’ve been burnt out after playing Pokémon for over 20 years.

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I’m not a fan of turn based games either, but BG3 is an excellent game and worth a shot.

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I totally agree. I’m having a blast with this game. Imo, the best thing Beth has ever made (yeah, suck it Morrowind stans)

I think the problem is that this game has a bit of a slow burn. It took a bit for it to open up and make sense for me, more than most Beth games. I think over time the hate cycle will die down and people will get it on a steam sale and finally sink their teeth into it and after a couple of years it’s going to be as beloved as Skyrim is today.

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I think a big part of the problem is just hype cycles. People had expectations that were through the roof. They didn’t tell you they had seamless transitions to space, and they didn’t tell you they had BG3 caliber branching conversation trees (which we’re a long way from being able to realistically do outside of a CRPG). But people seemingly expected that.

I watched the direct and we got basically what I expected (though the gunplay feels better than I expected. I definitely felt like VATS was needed in FO4.) It’s Bethesda’s game design philosophy of a massive world with a bunch of different play styles and a bunch of different quest lines (and smaller single quests) and locations that don’t have to be done in any order. You can easily get sidetracked and go down rabbit holes. They iterated on most of their core features and adapted them to the new setting in a really well done way.

I also love the way the skill system brought back the “get better by doing” philosophy of Skyrim with challenges to unlock higher levels, and the story telling is sci fi in more than just skin.

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