Comment by Killer@lemmy.world on Apple forced to ditch iPhone lightning charger

Apple forced to ditch iPhone lightning charger::Apple confirms new iPhone 15 will have a common USB-C charging port after EU forces it into the change.

Base model 15 will still only have usb 2.0 speeds.

Reminder:
usb 2 is a 2001 standard

Apple sure is innovating

I’ll say this. For how much shit Steve Jobs gets, regardless of his personal life, he would never allow this shit to happen. That crazy bastard is responsible for getting rid of the floppy drive and pushing the industry towards USB 1.0 because he believed enough in it. That we would benefit.

You can find old forum posts of the original iMac launch and see how surprised and somewhat upset people are at this revelation. Now look where we are.

Pushed the industry towards USB before inevitably abandoning it for their proprietary lightning charger.

You do realize lightning was conceptualized AFTER his death?

Not only that, but the industry standard at the time was Micro USB. So either a really good, reversible charger for the time, or a piece of shit cable that dies after 4 months. Take your pick.

ok now im really curious, what are you plugging into your CELL PHONE that requires 10 gigabit?

Obviously video. You must be an old fashion person that doesn’t record anything on their literally 4k HDR 60fps pocket camera. But I only back up all my stuff directly off my micro SD card because I don’t have 24h to empty all 128GB of it via USB 2.0.

It takes 35.5 minutes to transfer 128GB over USB 2.0, not 24 hours.

128GB of 4k 60fps video on the iphone is roughly 5-6 hours of video. Considering MicroSD cards under ideal conditions can only write at roughly 1.5x USB 2.0 speed, you’re not really saving a whole lot of time. Especially considering that sustained writes cause a lot of heat in those cards and throughput is drastically reduced within under a minute of transfer time. No idea where you got the 24h empty time from, maybe there’s something wrong with your adapter.

It takes sooooo long to transfer like 10-30k photos though. Even though the data amount is the same, it takes way longer when it’s a billion 10MB files. I’m shocked that my high end 2018 phone still plugs in at USB2 speeds.

I’m very jazzed iPhones are switching to USBC. I love the actual cable for lightning, it’s super unfiddly to plug in blind. But I DO have to wrap both ends with electrical tape and heat shrink to make sure they last. Well, I don’t HAVE to, but it does help.

You can also put USB Type C in blindly

You’re totally correct but it’s more FIDDLY (aaaaaaa)

Apple’s 4k/60 HDR Prores is about 6GB per minute of footage. The on-device storage is much, much faster than MicroSD cards.

So if you shoot 10 minutes of footage, with 60GB of files:

USB 2.0 speeds (480 Mbps or 60MB/s): 1000 seconds, or 16 minutes, 40 seconds.
Airdrop speeds (1.0 Gbps or 125MB/s): 480 seconds or 8 minutes
USB 3.0 speeds (4.8 Gbps or 600MB/s): 100 seconds, or 1 minute 40 seconds.

Note that Airdrop requires apple devices on both sides, which isn’t a given in a video workflow.

Also, the faster data connection opens up possibilities for tethered shooting where the pipe is fat enough to pull down the whole video at full uncompressed quality, which might make a huge difference for any kind of project where the on-board storage is a limiting factor.

I mean…. sure but if youre going to invest that much in high speed massive storage devices to do tethered shooting you’re maybe someone who uses an actual camera instead of a phone? That adds huge benefits like wide aperture and multiple lenses.

Your battery will die before you fill the internal storage. Attaching external storage occupies the charging port.

It’s a qualitative difference in investment when the phone you were already going to buy shoots video at quality settings that basically can’t be beat in the same form factor. Cameras of similar size and weight can’t compete with the quality, and cameras of similar quality can’t compete with the size and weight (or price).

It’ll occupy a particular market, even if it won’t cover all of them. The $4000, 3 lb (1.3 kg) mirrorless+lens kit isn’t going to compete with the $1000 iPhone in every space, and there will be a use for high quality (but not the top professional quality) at reasonable price and accessibility.

It already captures the quality. Might as well build on board the ability to transfer full quality video at reasonable speeds.

I had this question as well. I don’t think I’ve physically plugged my iPhone 11 in for data/photo/video syncing since I got it. Everything is super fast over wifi, there’s no reason for a cord. Only thing I use the port for is charging and sometimes audio. I’d probably have been fine if they dropped the port, but I’m happy they kept it for now.

Hey I’m with you, don’t really need faster wired data speeds.

But I guess Apple has changed their goals if they are leaving out common functionality available in all other flagship devices simply because it’s not strictly necessary 🤷

I think it should have had USB 3, but iPhone 15 isn’t Apple’s flagship device.

Fair, but most midrange phones have at least USB3 as well, no?

I don’t actually know for certain, but I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t.

My uneducated guess is this: the iPhone 15 uses the same A16 chip as the 14 Pro did, to more easily produce it at scale and cost effectively. The 14 Pro had Lightning and therefore 2.0 speeds. The 15 kept the 2.0 speed because the A16 couldn’t (readily?) be reengineered to support a 3.0 connector.

You’d be surprised how much vlogging and videography is performed with iPhones. Even LMG use one for GameLinked

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Anything that requires more than 53 MB/s.

The base 15 has the processor from the 14 pro, which does not have the USB 3.0 controller on it.

Just like the base 14 had the processor from the 13 pro …and the base 13 had the processor from the 12 pro

you get the idea.

It’s because apple hasn’t released usb3.0 specs as a new invention yet.

The Pro version does have it.

Everything to push people into buying even more expensive shit, right?

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