If you skip the introduction and don’t watch the Q&A afterwards, the presentation is just under an hour. A very good watch, IMO. Interested in what people think.
Words have meaning, like it out not. I’ll stand behind what I’ve already said about bigots and not fall into your what-aboutisms.
I’m just stating facts, I’m not telling you how to feel about the facts. Bigots are bigots unless or until they change, I don’t understand why you’re so offended by the word. It has a meaning and is being used properly. You just don’t like it, oh well.
No, you’re not stating facts, buddy, you’re expressing opinions. Whenever you call someone a bigot, you’re expressing an opinion, because labeling someone a bigot is always a value judgment. Someone, somewhere will always disagree with you. You and I would probably agree most of the time in our value judgments of who are/aren’t bigots, actually–but that’s not the issue here. The issue here is that I’m trying to point out that most of the time, there’s more nuance to be had in dealing with people whose opinions differ from ours, and thus more to be gained from conversing with them and treating them with a modicum of respect, which is what Jonathan Haidt’s point is. You and others in this thread are getting butthurt over the idea that those you regard as bigots might–just might–have some legitimacy to their views, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. But dismissing other people’s perspectives completely and labeling them “bigots” simply because you disagree with them is the essence of bigotry.
I have treated real bigots, real racists, real monsters. What I’m trying to tell you is these people are still human, and in that fact lies the revelation that no matter what our opinions of them are, there’s something to be learned about them and why they see the world the way they do. Something of real value, which is lost when you simply label them a “bigot” and shut off your capacity for empathy.
