It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.
In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.
The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.
The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.
Where are the instances that show face against racism?
edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks
edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)
… Stop fearmongering.
The_Donald, isn’t on lemmy. It’s here: https://patriots.win/
After reddit booted them, they built their own reddit. I am pretty sure, they aren’t interested in moving here, as that would ruin their echo-chamber.
Defederation is not the solution to your problem. sh.itjust.works is one of the larger lemmy instances, hosting lots of users, and lots of content.
The best solution for you, if you don’t want to see https://sh.itjust.works/c/thedonald is to block the community. (Or the ONE USER who posts stuff in it)
You cannot defederate every instance, that hosts a community which you do not agree with or like.
(Also- unrelated- c/thedonald isn’t going places… after it breaks the fediverse record of negative downvotes, it will prob disappear soon…)
You can and should defederate from things you don’t want to see. That’s the whole point of the entire project, that you can control your experience and choose to interact with whatever communities you wish. The Donald has a history of brigading and generally being a barbarian horde of racist dickheads, so defederating from them makes absolute sense. This isn’t just “I don’t like your opinion”, it’s absolutely “these people have a proven history of ruining every group they go near.”
Absolutely! Defederation is the prime weapon against these choad warriors.
Fuck fascists, and fuck any instance which would host them!
https://sh.itjust.works/ isn’t just c/thedonald.
Reddit, wasn’t just r/thedonald.
c/thedonald, is a SINGLE USER on an entire instance.
Defederating the entire instance, to block the content of a single user, ONLY HURTS the thousands of users on that server, who want to see content elsewhere, and ONLY HURTS the users elsewhere, who want to see content on THAT server.
@Tsinc@feddit.de Care to share your viewpoint?
They might have a main community on patriots.win, that doesn’t mean they wont try to spread their ideology into other social media. I don’t think TD on sh.it.just.works will be successfull, but I hoped for a wider agreement here, that racism should not be activly shared. I can block them, I can move to another instance, but what i really want is to minimize the range of this and future extreme-right communities in the lemmyverse.
I think we have the amazing new tool of a federated space to build really nice communities. Why dont we use it? The admins of sh.itjust.works have the choice. If they are in favour of nazis, we better not wait longer until they are even bigger and more difficult to defederate.
You cannot defederate every instance, that hosts a community which you do not agree with or like.
sounds to me like it’s my problem to not like nazis
I don’t think anyone wants racism to spread. I mean- look at the rules for my instance for example. There aren’t many.
- Don’t be an asshole
- Don’t be racist.
- Don’t spam.
The only point I am trying to address here- defederating instances, is going to kill this platform MUCH faster then just letting that one, tiny echo-chamber exist.
Lets say, we block that community and ban it. The problem is solved, right?
Absolutely not!, now you are going to have a bunch of those followers attacking lemmy with a vengeance, trying to push the agenda at every single corner!
On the other side- I think it is in the best interests of the platform as a whole, to remain somewhat neutral.
Sure, we have have individual communities who prefer left-wing, or right-wing. We have have instances dedicated to being liberal or conservative.
But- at a platform level, immediately bashing out on communities because it is against another’s belief- is going to cause a lot more problems than it solves. Think about it, do you honestly thing the_donald would have ever existed if the tension from reddit didn’t cause them to form their own echo chamber?
(Also- before anyone comments on my political affiliation- I am libertarian. I do not give a rats ass who you vote for, and I openly support your choice and right to vote how you choose.)
Also- other then your dislike for the_donald- have, they broken any rules? Have, they said anything racist?
I am quite willing to bet, they will be banned on the spot for being racist.
I think you’re a Nazi and you should be banned from lemmy.ml. Only a Nazi would be in favour of banning free speech and political opponents. Now what? How is this supposed to end?
@xtremeownage Downvotes do nothing here to trigger deletion or admin action.
I know, but eventually, the user posting that content should figure out- it’s not going anywhere…
Unless- there are users actively subscribing to that community.
Defederation may be the only solution to the problem without changing the source code to allow for better administration tools.
Defederation may be the only solution to the problem without changing the source code to allow for better administration tools.
Do note, posts from that community, will ONLY federate to your instance, if somebody is actively subscribed to it.
If nobody is subscribed to that community, then posts from that community WILL NOT flow to your instance.
So if I want to spread my shit, I just need to create an account on that instance and subscribe to the community? Seems feasible and if they ban that account I (or someone else from the shit community) can create a new account and just keep going.
