You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
-6 points

I was out all of yesterday and haven’t had time to listen to the announcement but as I understand it this is the same target as the EU.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/economy/20221019STO44572/eu-ban-on-sale-of-new-petrol-and-diesel-cars-from-2035-explained

Is Sunak “scum” because he changed his mind or are the EU also “scum”?

Love the username BTW. Powerpuff Girls?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points
*

Really anyone who’s living the good life while they condemn the rest of humanity to suffer the coming climate catastrophe. He has some capacity to change things, yet here we are.

Edit.

Also yes. Mojojojo. Egggggggssssss

permalink
report
parent
reply
-8 points

Again, I have only seen a five minute news clip this morning but as far as I understand climate change is going to screw us all. There’s no escape from it whether your rich or poor. He does however have the ability to swap his cars to electric right now whilst poorer people and businesses on limited cash flows don’t. This might ease at least that burden for them? And obviously nothing is stopping you personally from swapping your car out if you can afford it, right? He’s just saying of you can’t afford it you have slightly longer. People should make their own personal goals of 2030 regardless of what the government says.

What I haven’t seen is any concrete steps of how we go from here to 2035 and what infrastructure or funding will be put in place to actually reach the goal.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I would think being rich would protect you from the worst. His family will struggle but he’ll be long gone. Yeah I get that. It’ll hurt poorer people. All Tory policies negatively impact the poor.

Stopping new cars Doesn’t hurt the poor’s. Stops the rich from buying new ice cars. Moves all manufacturers to EV. It’s a win for environment and will hopefully push prices down

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

as far as I understand climate change is going to screw us all. There’s no escape from it whether your rich or poor.

That’s extraordinarily naive. Of course having all the power will make a difference. Would you rather be a billionaire or a normal human being during a climate apocalypse?

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I know others have answered, but just to bring up a few points that might sway you to seeing why it is incorrect to assume that climate change will affect everyone equally: Storm surges are likely to increase along coastlines. If you are wealthy enough you can move further inland or take additional precautions like installing infrastructure to protect your home/land. You likely also have better insurance with higher premiums, but which will help in the event that your home or property is damaged. The same is true for those in areas prone to things like tornadoes and wildfires. You also are more likely to have the resources to evacuate quickly in the event of an emergency and pay for lodging for extended periods of time until the area you live is safe to return to. Additionally, crop failures will affect everyone, but less so those who are able to pay extra for food. Right now many people struggle to afford the basics, and because of how we operate economically, there is incentive to raise prices when things are harder to obtain. This includes simple staples like cereals/fruits/vegetables/etc and like we recently saw… eggs. Infrastructure is another area where we will begin to see large disparities, as older communities struggle to keep up with changing climates. Floods can be mitigated somewhat by enlarging drainage, but only if the city/state/municipality can afford to do so. I’m not trying to harp on you for not knowing, but it’s important that these things are considered when we discuss the inequities between rich and poor going forward (we’ve already seen these, but they will be compounded going forward at an even more accelerated rate).

permalink
report
parent
reply

UK Politics

!uk_politics@feddit.uk

Create post

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don’t post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think “reputable news source” needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

!ukpolitics@lemm.ee appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

Community stats

  • 1.8K

    Monthly active users

  • 2K

    Posts

  • 17K

    Comments