I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the “well Russia was the aggressor” thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.

also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.

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In ten years every liberal who was frothing about russian orcs will confidently tell you they always said the neo-nazi problem in Ukraine was bigger than the invasion, and that they correctly predicted all these terror attacks all over Europe, and they’re definitely anti-fascists from way back.

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In ten years they will still be demanding Russia cedes Crimea.

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They don’t care about the Kurds is Syria after having been told they were out bestest friends in the middle east, I think they’ll completely abandon it

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Kurds aren’t “aryan” though. You’re missing the racism from your analysis.

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