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51 points

Has anyone else noticed that Western Liberal Armchair Generals seem to consistently just ignore hypersonic missile technology when they make proclamations about how a Great Power War would pan out?

Like it’s just not a thing to them. And there seems to be tacit agreement among themselves to not bring it up while they suck each other off about hypothetical wars.

But when you throw “hypersonic missile” into one of their circle jerks they all go flaccid and get really really angry with you. That’s how you know it’s a legit game changer.

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39 points

It’s all about the holy aircraft carriers which are fucking dead when hypersonic missiles are involved.

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honest question doesn’t aircraft carriers serves mostly to bully small and underdeveloped nations?

like, something that size and slow, seems like a easy target for any decent navy or air force

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27 points

So much tacticool technology used by Burgerland is for bullying nations that can’t meaningfully fight back.

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26 points

Yes, US military is geared for that, the fact revealed by the ammunition and supply debacle in the Ukraine war.

Carriers are used for the good old gunboat diplomacy.

And it’s not only even hypersonic missiles that are danger to them. Quite long time ago Swedish navy proven during the NATO maneuvers that competently used non-nuclear submarine can sink the carrier too. There’s also strange coincidence between Iran proving they have working supercavitating torpedoes and USN reluctance to sail the carriers into Persian Gulf. Btw NATO still don’t have such torpedoes too while USSR had them since 1977.

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That is the US’s MO for their wars. To be fair, that has been the vast majority of conflicts they have engaged in so it makes a certain degree of sense. They are the world’s playground bully.

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The Ukraine War is showing a lot of issues with how the U.S. would take a fight to any peer country’s shores. Carriers have never been more vulnerable and there was that recent report about how we’d need to restart conscription to keep up with the casualties of such a war.

If I were a State Department ghoul this would drive home the importance of having heavily-militarized vassal states who can act as a forward base and do as much of the dying as we can get away with. Hopefully that plan is becoming increasingly obvious to the people and leaders of those vassal states as well.

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this would drive home the importance of having heavily-militarized vassal states who can act as a forward base and do as much of the dying as we can get away with.

That’s literally what Ukraine is doing. So I’d argue the ghouls knew that as far back as 2004 when they did the Orange “revolution”

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22 points

They’re never slow to proclaim that Taiwan is basically an “unsinkable aircraft carrier” to them, but still enshrine the sinkable aircraft carriers as some unbeatable game changer.

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But when you throw “hypersonic missile” into one of their circle jerks they all go flaccid and get really really angry with you

And claim Russia and China don’t Akschually have them, while Pentagon totes does

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But when you throw “hypersonic missile” into one of their circle jerks they all go flaccid and get really really angry with you.

You underestimate the gullibility of burgers. I’ve brought up hypersonic missiles to otherwise “apolitical” friends and they just started going on about how a patriot missile system shot one down in Ukraine and how hypersonics aren’t shit.

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kind of like how at the beginning of the war Liz from trueanon made a comment on Russian Missile technology and people shit their pants

She might not be a weapon specialist but her dad worked with Aeronautic wing of the US military industrial complex

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Liz from trueanon made a comment on Russian Missile technology and people shit their pants

Could you elaborate, please? What did Liz say? What was the reaction?

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It was that short episode they did when the invasion started.

Liz basically said the war sucks and Europe doesn’t really have the capacity or the economy to fight it and that Russia has hypersonic missiles that might be far more advanced than the missiles arsenal NATO possessed

some people really took issue with the statement basically saying that this is not needed and that they fall into the Russian imperialist narrative

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16 points

They’ll change their minds if the US manages to attain them.

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strange kinda thing to pontificate about - can’t imagine a Great Power War panning out in a way that doesn’t involve most of us getting turned into bone and ash within the hour, and then the new Great Power War will be between shirtless mutant furry dudes with big bits of rebar

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