Basically, install Windows as you normally would, but when asked for Time and Currency format, select English (World) instead of your country.

Then let the installer do its thing. Eventually, you will see a window with an ice cream cone on the floor with the words “Something went wrong” and the error message “OOBEREGION.” This cryptic message means that the “out of box experience” (OOBE) didn’t launch because it didn’t know which region to launch.

Click Skip, though, and Windows will install just fine. You won’t be prompted to buy Microsoft 365, you won’t be prompted to pay for a OneDrive subscription, and your Start menu won’t be cluttered with apps.

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5 points

I’m of the opinion that MS will eventually get this right, but it won’t be called Windows 11 by the time it does. The redesign, efforts into command-line and WSL, they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go. If they can release Win12 or whatever its called with the simplicity of Win11, have the features of Win10 (and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before), they could have another solid performer like Windows 7.

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they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

They’re going nowhere. It’s making money, Microsoft is using that income to offset development cost instead of just selling the OS at a flat reasonable rate. It’s part of the Windows business model now.

Windows is entrenched, they own most of the business world, they will never face serious kickback for their design decisions. Not at this point. Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

This isn’t ever going to change. The only thing they’ll do is give tools to Enterprise editions for businesses to control the install, and only via Azure, at a price point far too high for the average user. Anything less than Enterprise will be locked down and monetized to hell and back.

Effectively, if you’re not a business, you will not have true control over Windows. Users no longer get to be admins. You have to pay for that privilege.

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They’re not offsetting anything, they still charge money for the boxed copy sold in stores. This is pure profit for them.

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Yeah windows 11 is laying ground work for all of this.

It seems like they have decided that plebs and OEMs paying licenses was not a good business model.

Really makes you wonder where the entire business world is heading. It seems every company starting to prefer this route.

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Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

Elder millennial here. This was said of us, too. I remember main framers sometimes noting this direction and poking fun.

Yet here I am and the world keeps chugging along in similar ways.

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Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

I am a bit weirded out by such an association. Around me, I do see a few people with Apple tech, but they’re a minority. How would people that are able to afford these products be numerous enough to matter?

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I don’t know why gen z is being portrayed as tech illiterate everywhere on lemmy. We grew up with technology and half of us are adults already

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Growing up with technology doesn’t automatically grant you knowledge of it. Kids that grow up with iPads are capable of using iPads, but sit them in front of a computer and they’ll be lost. Being technically literate is more than just being able to install an app from the app store.

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the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

They just introduced them. What makes you think this isn’t an integral part of the future of Windows?

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Win12 gonna spy even harder tho

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Win12 isn’t gonna run locally. OS as a service.

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0 points

Window Sun Ray edition…

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6 points

I think they’ll go even harder, making Windows only run stuff purchased through the Windows Store so they can completely lock in the market.

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6 points

For “security“

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4 points

Absolutely. The security argument is used so often I’m surprised people aren’t more cynical about it.

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Financial security no doubt

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They already have a Windows “S” mode or whatever it’s called that does this. People will reject it, even casual users. I had one person ask me to turn off this mode to their kid could play Roblox. They just want to run apps, they don’t care how they work.

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(and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before)

that’s probably not going to happen because it will break some programs

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Honestly, there are some apps out there they need complete overhauls or to be completely replaced.

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