I use wire (wire. com) for daily chatting. I like it but I couldnβt find any good communities in wire. In session, or simpleX, there are privacy (and other) groups in which anyone can participateβ¦ Can we start a privacy group in wire so we folks can also hang around?
Metadata. Requiring a phone number to register. And a hostile anti-federation, anti-API stance by Signal. Sure, you can run your own server, but you canβt connect to anyone in the official Signal network, and third-party apps are also disallowed.
Wire has the same problem, donβt get me wrong. Theyβve been resolutely refusing any third-party connections (mainly requests from Matrix bridge folks). But Signal isnβt an improvement on these fonts.
Signal is building straight alternative to WhatsApp. And it is very good because everyone who uses it can easily switch to Signal, without complications. Federation adds many new concepts (problems) for normal human, more latency and makes development way slower which is also very bad for mass adoption. And they are against only of 3rd party clients which use Signal in name. Molly exists, f.e. So Signal rocks π€π
Well, you said it yourself, Wire isnβt much different in that regard, so Signal is pretty much a one for one substitute.
I would like federation for Signal too somehow, in fact I use Matrix on the side, in particular with people I donβt want to share my phone number with, but that doesnβt prevent it from being a very solid option in and of itself