cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/488620

65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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So you’ve shifted from votes only matter in swing states to votes only matter if their side wins and smaller states have a higher elector to population rates.

None of that matters, each person’s vote is counted once. You are conflating the outcome of the election to whether the vote counts. It’s like saying everyone who voted against an issue that passed vote did not count.

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So you’ve shifted from votes only matter in swing states to votes only matter

No, I haven’t shifted, I’m describing several different problems.

  • Swing states are the only ones that make a difference. That’s why candidates only visit swing states for the most part.

  • Votes are ignored when your state votes against you (Ex: California votes 51% blue 49% red, but 100% of the electoral votes go to blue, effectively ignoring half the voters). Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

  • Each vote is weighted differently based on citizen location, which is antithetical to democracy

None of that matters, each person’s vote is counted once.

This is irrelevant, the issue is not the number of times counted, it’s how it’s counted.

You are conflating the outcome of the election to whether the vote counts.

That is quite literally how the electoral vote works. Blue votes from Texas are ignored, with the electoral votes going to red.

It’s like saying everyone who voted against an issue that passed vote did not count.

Maybe that’d be true if electoral votes reflected the actual vote within a state, but they don’t, it’s almost always winner take all.

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Swing states are not the only votes that make a difference. If enough people believed that in a solid state and didn’t vote the outcome would change ie their vote counts.

Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

Your vote doesn’t get changed based on the outcome it stays the same. It is still counted.

Issue voting is winner take all and unless I missed it you don’t have a problem with that.

What you are asking for is a more granular representation for votes, not to “make everyone’s vote count”.

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I’ve already addressed basically everything you’ve said here, so I’m going to leave it at that.

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