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Very true, although I can’t think of a better solution than having the state monopolize violence and enforce things like personal property etc and that’s not necessarily anything specific to capitalism either.

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Some very smart and imaginative anarchist philosophers have been working on exactly that for a very long time, from Mikhail Bakunin 200 years ago to more modern writers like Noam Chomsky or David Graeber. I think their work is worthwhile.

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I haven’t found Chomskys work to be convincing… it’s always so… extra…

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I don’t think it’s extra. Quite the opposite. If anything, it could use a little extra, because it’s extremely dry and academic.

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Luckily solutions don’t rely on your imagination.

If people who “can’t think of a better way” would stop trying to impose their lack of imagination on the rest of us we would be able to progress.

There are smarter people than you or I in the world and they aren’t the ones running things, the ones whispering, “You’re nothing without me”

The first step of any abusive relationship is recognizing it’s an abusive relationship. The second is to stop making excuses for your abuser and just leave, no matter what they claim the cost to be.

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This is a terrible argument.

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Is not an argument.

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It is a respectable argument in the way that matters, as identifying a previous, terrible argument, one that was nothing but an appeal to ignorance.

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Yes and there are people who can’t leave, eg have no place to go, no means of survival, otherwise. Disabled, power differentiate between men/women/children, etc.

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Yep. We’re all stuck and only together can we get unstuck. Unionize. Vote. Share ideas. Help others escape the fog when they get stuck.

Unfortunately some don’t want to be help. They’ll defend their abusers with violence. They are the most dangerous. Flying monkey’s doing the bidding of the powerful.

No shame when they wake though; capitalism is a mind fuck.

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I can’t think of a better solution than having the state monopolize violence and enforce things

I can’t think of a worse one.

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Sorry, it’s the internet so I can’t tell if you’re kidding or not (I’m hoping hyperbole).

Are you genuinely saying you think everyone using violence at their own discretion for example is better?

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Individual descretion occurs within a context of established norms and rules, which would be very different under a society in which everyone protects one another, rather than one in which such responsibility has been forfeit to a power that controls the population.

A society of the prior kind would be safer, by not being held hostage, and by not being disempowered to control itself.

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