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-30 points

You all realize they don’t have that money laying around to pay the IRS right? They own companies, those companies are worth that much. To pay that you would have to liquidate those companies. So no more Amazon, Tesla, Space X, etc…

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no more Amazon, Tesla, Space X, etc…

Oh no! Anyway, so how can we make this happen, like, yesterday?

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Don’t be a bootlicker or bot or idiot.

When they sell their shares to buy twitter or pay the tax man, those companies still exist. It just means that other people get to buy those shares and that’s a good thing, because that way those companies get owned by the public.

Tesla and SpaceX still exist even after Elon overpaid by some $30B for his Twitter adventure.

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24 points

Brings a tear to my eye, I tells ya

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You don’t have to liquidate. Giving governments around the world more of a direct say in these international companies would be good.

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I would be happy to take taxes in the form of ownership of the company

here the tax genius of Henry the 8th comes into play “pay me my money or else”

when noblemen didn’t pay william the conqueror the taxes he felt were due on time he would boil them. The principle being that if the rich face consequences for breaking the law they obey.

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22 points

Don’t threaten me with a good time

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Well they are public companies bar space x so. Just redistribute those shares.

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I highly recommend you to read the paper billionare argument. The market can stand the liquidation of most of those companies without making them go bankrupt, we don’t want them to stop existing, just to make them smaller and not a threat to democracy.

For the whole scale of wealth I also recommend going through wealth shown to scale

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Can billionaires liquidate their assets? Yes, it is theoretically possible

The real question is, who is going to buy the assets?

Let’s say we have a billionaire that owns a billion dollar company.

Could that billionaire sell all their shares, get a billion dollars in cash, and then give it away. Yes, it is possible.

But that billion dollars in cash has to come from somewhere. Either the citizens have to come with a billion dollars in cash or the government.

If the citizens spend a billion to buy the shares, then the government takes the billion in cash from the billionaire, then the government gives a billion back to the citizens. You just basically printed an extra billion dollars for the economy, which causes inflation. Because the citizens now have two billion in stocks and cash, compared to just one billion in cash.

Our fiat money system has flaws, one day it is going to crash.

But Besos’ 100+ billion in Amazon stock is money tied up outside of the economy until he sells.

Forcing him to sell and introduce that money into the economy has repercussions.

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You don’t need to make him dump all of his money all at once. Make an investment plan so that sum of money doesn’t disturb the market, extend the dump for two-three years and you can put 100 million without destroying the system

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No, they’d just need to liquidate their share in those companies. Those shares would then get bought up by other people or by pension funds.

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Or picked apart by private equity vultures at the expense of pension funds.

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Just redistribute ownership to the workers. There’s no need for liquidation here.

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All they’d need to liquidate is part of their ownership in said companies. Companies themselves will be ok, don’t you worry your bleeding heart.

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That’s not true at all. Loss of controlling ownership makes a company vulnerable to a hostile takeover. The new owners will pick it apart like the vultures they are.

RIP grannies pension plan

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That’s the thing people don’t get. The ultra wealthy are wealthy on paper.

On an average years. All of us make more than Elon in wages.

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You’re making it sound like the wealthy are rich in technicality only. Maybe the majority of their assets aren’t liquid but they’re still damn wealthy more than “on paper.”

And singling out wages as the only source of income to prove Elon isn’t “actually” wealthy is disingenuous at best.

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He’s wealthy but he doesn’t have a high income.

We tax income in America. That’s why Elon pays little and same with bezos. They just don’t have much income.

It personally doesn’t bother me they have billions. They pay their fair share of their taxes just like I pay mine.

You’re not poor because they’re rich. Once you stop focusing on others and focus on yourself; life becomes much easier.

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What does that matter? He doesn’t take wages intentionally. He has a large stock portfolio that he can borrow against and thereby pay no taxes on that “income”.

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What did Elon get paid, excluding stock options at companies he works for?

I bet he still makes more than me.

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Most years under 30k. Often a dollar or free.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/20/investing/elon-musk-pay/index.html

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