Details offer clue as to why Wagner Group abandoned coup attempt that revealed ‘real cracks’ in Putin’s authority

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Do I believe the telegraph?

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Entirely up to you, I suppose. We’re all just scrambling for explanations to make it make sense, but I expect if this is BS we’ll at least see a story exposing it as BS.

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Fair enough to wait for a better source, but I’m seeing this in other places too, citing “UK intelligence sources”.

But, and this is confirmation bias speaking, this was exactly my guess when I first heard he’d turned around: “guess some family member that he cares about didn’t make themselves quite scarce enough and Putins guys have them.”

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The only reason I don’t believe this is, every well-informed Russian knows to hide their family and friends before doing something like this.

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Agreed, yet it does seem to be a more logical explanation then the “official” narrative.

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while no doubt true, russian kgb fsb is some of the best intelligence in the world I’d imagine. it’s one of those groups I would not wanna be on the wrong side of

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And Prigozhin having any kind empathy.

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I read somewhere that Putin threatened the families of Wagner officers and not Prigozhin’s himself. More plausible IMO because the chain is as weak as its weakest links. Putin might have found just enough leverage.

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My bet is the other places you are seeing this are either Yahoo or MSN, which is just rehosting the Telegraph’s article. That’s the only other place I’ve seen this.

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Same

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It’s kinda dumbfounding to me because like did this dude really think Russia wasn’t going to go after family? He’s evil but come on, literally everyone knows that they’d do that and more.

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