Have people noticed how much popretary java code ProtonMail requires when using a web browser for email?

Also, why the required login on their free VPN service if they are all about privacy and encryption? Why do they want someone’s network traffic in order to use their free VPN?

Over the past 6 months my suspicion grows bigger and bigger of who is behind Proton, the agenda behind starting the service, and how it caught on? Why don’t free encrypted anti-government services catch on?

Until ProtonVPN removes login requirement and release VPN server code under open source license like RiseupVPN or CalyxVPN which are anonymous VPN’s, no account, I will choose to treat Proton like a spy agency.

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Good to see this place is going to be about as conspiratorial r/privacy 😬

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It’s healthy to discuss this type of thing even if we are wrong or paranoid. You are being abusive in an anti-privacy way.

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Nothing is perfect. Everything is this world is about trust even if they open source everything is practically impossible for you to verify all the code and then verified if it really been used on the final product . And that is only the VPN , what about the email provider, your ISP , your phone carrier? , the apps you daily use. Are you going to check the source code of every single thing you use? And make sure it is been using correctly? Also even if you can do all that , how do you know the encryption being used hasnt been broken by a government already? Come on man be more realistic.

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I never said i agreed with OPs specific claims. I agree with more of what you just said than what OP said.

My only claim is that its totally unacceptable to add nothing to a convo other than trying to peer-pressure shame a person from talking about privacy concerns on a privacy community. Sometimes that type of abuse would stop nonsense, and sometimes itd stop legit convo.

Telling someone they are “crazy” is one of the most common ways to shut down legit observations and i see it too much.

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