A journalist and advocate who rose from homelessness and addiction to serve as a spokesperson for Philadelphia’s most vulnerable was shot and killed at his home early Monday, police said.

Josh Kruger, 39, was shot seven times at about 1:30 a.m. and collapsed in the street after seeking help, police said. He was pronounced dead at a hospital a short time later. Police believe the door to his Point Breeze home was unlocked or the shooter knew how to get in, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. No arrests have been made and no weapons have been recovered, they said.

Authorities haven’t spoken publicly about the circumstances surrounding the killing.

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Unironically shut the fuck up

You have thoroughly convinced me!

Where can I sign up for the daily hate speech against Christians? Oh, nevermind, I forgot I already have a Lemmy account.

It is unfortunate that rather than learning how to fight against their methods, you have instead decided to emulate them.

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“Hate speech against Christians”

Please point out the hate speech in the comment you replied to. Telling you to shut the fuck up isn’t hate speech, and everything else is literally a straightforward fact about Christianity in America. Zero hate speech.

Gotta play the persecution game though, am I right?

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Those first two lines were intentionally sarcastic exaggeration. Was I supposed to include a /s for the cheap seats? It seemed pretty obvious from here.

They pretty well lost me when they told me to “shut the fuck up”. I certainly wasn’t going to waste my time on a clearly worded response to someone who likely wouldn’t read it anyways.

Not sure who you think is getting persecuted, I doubt many Christians would hang out in a place like this. Even those that push for the bodily autonomy of women would feel unwelcome with so many people openly hostile to their faiths.

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I doubt many Christians would hang out in a place like this.

If they’re offended by people acknowledging the impact of Christians on LGBT people in the US, good. Leave. I don’t have time for straight Christians who want to hand wring and whinge about others acknowledging the historical and current negative impact Christianity has had on LGBT people.

Do you know how many fucking anti-LGBT bills have been put forward just this year in the US? This isn’t rhetorical, a real number is attached to it. Don’t google it, think of a number.

What number did you guess?

Because it’s almost 500.

How many anti-Christianity bills have there been in the past 50 years, again?

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I’m curious what you consider hate speed or bigotry against christians.

If I dislike all christians that follow the bible/their gods commands and believe in their gods benevolence, would you say I’m a bigot?

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tl;dr Maybe. It mostly depends on your wording and actions. Christians are not one group or thing anymore than Europeans or LGBT people are. They are a collection of highly varied peoples that can’t even agree on the number of books in the bible or whether Jesus was man, god, or both.

If someone says or implies “all Christians” are this or that negative thing it moves closer to yes rather than maybe. If someone is accuses a person of being something for no other reason than a group they belong to, then the accuser is probably a bigot.

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This wall of text is an eyesore, so I added bold to your words and Italics to other quotes to help with readability. My words have neither.

would you say I’m a bigot?

If you personally dislike them, but you don’t let it affect the way you treat them, I really wouldn’t care one way or another.

As far as I am concerned, fear and hatred of the unknown and different are as human and natural as love and lust. It is what people do with those emotions that matter.

If someone’s lust encourages them to date and eventually spend their life with someone they are attracted to that is a good expression. If someone’s lust encourages them to violet the privacy of or assault someone then that is a bad expression.

Fear of the unknown and different is similar. If it encourages someone to learn more about different peoples, foods, or animals, then it is a good expression. If it encourages them to disparage or commit acts of violence against them then that is a bad expression.

I’m curious what you consider hate speed or bigotry against christians.

a person who is intolerant or hateful toward people whose race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc., is different from the person’s own.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigot

hate speech, speech or expression that denigrates a person or persons on the basis of (alleged) membership in a social group identified by attributes such as race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age, physical or mental disability, and others.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/hate-speech

I see bigotry and hate speech as more words and actions than opinions. What does an opinion matter if it is not expressed through word or deed? Is someone really intolerant if they tolerate someone in all areas except their own mind?

Mostly it comes down to treating any group, Christians in this case, as if they are the same and are each responsible for the acts of all the others.

If I dislike all christians that follow the bible/their gods commands and believe in their gods benevolence,

Protestants, Catholics, and Eastern Orthodoxy don’t even agree on the number of books in the bible. If you haven’t run into the idea of the Apocrypha you may find it interesting.

Various numbers below (formatting edited for readability):

The canon of

the Protestant Bible totals 66 books—39 Old Testament (OT) and 27 New Testament (NT);

the Catholic Bible numbers 73 books (46 OT, 27 NT),

and Greek and Russian Orthodox, 79 (52 OT, 27 NT)

(Ethiopian Orthodox, 81—54 OT, 27 NT).

https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2022/04/why-are-protestant-catholic-and-orthodox-bibles-different/

Lest you think that it is only the old testament that is debated here is info about the New testament in Martin Luther’s Bible:

Though he included the Letter to the Hebrews, the letters of James and Jude and Revelation in his Bible translation, he put them into a separate grouping and questioned their legitimacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilegomena#Reformation

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