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The existance of potatoes in western diet might be politically motivated (just like every food, not just potatoes), but that’s not the same as saying that potatoes are political.

Also, even if the potato had never been involved in any of that and had been always peacefully and respectfully used… wouldn’t that history also be political? Why would violent conflict be more of a “political” thing, when non-violence is as much of a political movement?

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you are out here acting like something being political is a high bar when it really isn’t.

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EVERY food meets that same criteria. So of course the bar is not high under that categorization.

The problem is that calling a physical object “political” just because it can be placed in a political framework makes no sense, because then everything is “political” at that point, thus making the term pretty meaningless.

It would be like saying “potatos are emotional” just because it’s possible for someone somewhere to get emotional about a potato.

What’s political are human opinions, intentions and actions. Not a chunk of metal, nor the root of a plant.

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Would you seriously say that food is NOT political? With famines being a major driver of social unrest and mass death? With government power being highly linked from ancient times to the distribution and taxation of grain crops? With its impacts on public health and chronic diseases? With the many land reforms throughout history? With the freaking Food and Drug Administration and the Farm Bill and the US Department of Agriculture and the presidential candidates at the Iowa State Fair eating corn dogs as rustically as they can muster? With the existence of the vegan movement? I could easily go on but I think it’s pretty clear that you at the very least picked a bad example of something that’s not political.

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it’s not more of a political thing, therefore they would both be political. although I’m not convinced that a crop that’s strictly nonviolent would even exist

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Exactly. If you use that criteria to categorize physical things (instead of human intentions/goals), then you’ll find everything is political, and thus that classification would be totally useless.

Even numbers and mathematics would be political by that criteria… even regions of space we haven’t visited would be. It’s trivial to find a political frame from which to see anything, all you need is to have an opinion about how it has affected / can affect humanity. So that criteria makes it a pretty useless term.

Physical objects aren’t any more “political” than they are “emotional”. Are potatoes also emotional?

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Potatoes are commonly described as a comfort food so I think it would be fair to describe them as emotional, although it would be a bit of an odd way to word it.

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