Statistics Canada confirmed last week that 351,679 babies were born in 2022 — the lowest number of live births since 345,044 births were recorded in 2005.

The disparity is all the more notable given that Canada had just 32 million people in 2005, as compared to the 40 million it counted by the end of 2022. In 2005, it was already at historic lows for Canada to have a fertility rate of 1.57 births per woman. But given the 2022 figures, that fertility rate has now sunk to 1.33.

Of Canadians in their 20s, Statistics Canada found that 38 per cent of them “did not believe they could afford to have a child in the next three years” — with about that same number (32 per cent) saying they doubted they’d be able to find “suitable housing” in which to care for a baby.

A January survey by the Angus Reid Group asked women to list the ideal size of their family against its actual size, and concluded that the average Canadian woman reached the end of their childbearing years with 0.5 fewer children than they would have wanted

“In Canada, unlike many other countries, fertility rates and desires rise with income: richer Canadians have more children,” it read.

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Considering that if you aren’t making a lot, you can get quite a bit of money every month for each kid through child benefits until they are 18, I don’t think the cost of housing is the issue.

Here’s a radical thought: Maybe people simply don’t want to be burdened by kids.

Perhaps if we stopped pressuring mothers into believing that they NEED to have kids, or that couples can’t be complete without a real family.

Maybe then we can start normalizing the fact that not everyone actually wants (or needs) kids.

EDIT: For you idiots downvoting, could you at least read the study? It agrees with what I wrote!

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That’s a joke, right? When I looked it was only 500 to 620 a month per kid.

You have baby items to worry about, needing a crap ton of clothes (kids grow a LOT), having adequate nutrition (growth spurts too), school supplies, and more. If you’re already barely making ends meet, of COURSE you’ll struggle if you add another human being. Of course, cost of living also varies by area, as well as public transportation. Without that, you’d have to hope that you live near essentials like a family doctor, or you’d have to pony up even more money for a car and child seat.

If that’s not enough, you also get the fun of society looking down on your for “having kids before you were ready”. Many of us heard that from adults throughout the entire time we grew up. Why voluntarily walk into that? Nah. IF I ever have a kid, it won’t be untilI can guarantee that that doesn’t happen.

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I think they misunderstood a Stats Canada paper to get a wildly unrealistic cost estimate. I linked it and some numbers in a reply further up.

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I’ve raised two, and they are rising their own.

If an extra 500+ a month isn’t enough, then you are overspending for no good reason!

Buy second hand, learn how to be frugal with certain items, get most larger items from a baby shower (if you have one), etc., don’t get sucked into blitz marketing that targets new parents, etc.

Kids become more of a financial burden when they grow up… age 10-18 and beyond, and that money is still rolling in.

If that’s not enough, you also get the fun of society looking down on your for “having kids before you were ready”. Many of us heard that from adults throughout the entire time we grew up.

That’s my point from my original comment. Society is pressuring people into “wanting” kids, but a great number of people simply don’t, and that’s OK!

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Housing is an easy example. One bedroom or bachelor’s pads are, in my area, ~1200/month. Not the nicest ones at that price, but decent. You jump up to a two bed or a Ben+a den, and you’re looking at 1800/month at least. At a three bed, it’s close to 2500/month.

Even if you assume those are on the larger side for price jumps, if you’re barely able to scrape by with two people in a bachelor’s apartment or in a one bedroom, there’s no way you can “afford” it solely by CCB benefits. Almost all the benefit is eaten up by housing increases alone! Then add on childcare, and CCB isn’t enough to give those feeling like they’re just hanging on wiggle room to raise a child.

Kids are an enormous financial burden early on, especially for the small things. Kids get sick a lot, so you need to have a job that will allow you flexibility, or else you’ll lose money for unpaid days off for doctors appointments or to sit at home with them when they’re puking.

Kids need daycare unless youre staying home, which is suuuuper expensive these days. They also have limited hours, which if you’re stuck working a shitty job, you may not be able to make.

Even second hand, clothes are expensive, and with how fast kids grow, it’s an expense worth noting.

All in all, if you’re well off, yeah it may not be a big problem for you, but for the people that are already struggling, it’s a large factor into why they’re not having kids yet.

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I’ve raised two, and they are rising their own.

Costs have increased significantly in the past few decades.

If an extra 500+ a month isn’t enough, then you are overspending for no good reason!

The only after school care available in my community costs around $400/mo. I’m in a rural area, so it’s probably higher in cities.

Daycare may be cheaper now due to the $10/day thing, but I’m not sure how many spots are available.

Swimming lessons are $200-300. Sports typically run for a season, but they start around $200. We’ve got our kids in “cheap” sports, but even then, costs add up.

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31 points

I can attest from personal experience, finances are 100% the reason me and my partner can’t have kids right now. Its very hard to justify brining a kid into this world when its hard to maintain stability for 2 adults, let alone with the costs required to raise a child.

We were evicted from our last home for no other reason than the greed of our landlord. That stress would have been tenfold if we had to go through that with kids.

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I can attest from personal experience, finances are 100% the reason me and my partner can’t have kids right now.

And government child benefits wouldn’t help? If you are struggling that much (and I don’t suggest having a kid if you are struggling at all), the government will pay you monthly for the next 18 years that you have a child…

I think you need to look beyond finances to make this decision, though. Do you have the energy and time for a kid? Are you willing to put all your plans on hold for the foreseeable future, potentially burden your relationship, for a child? Will you be able to quit your job to spend your entire day caring for a child with special needs? Are you willing to care for that child beyond age 18, when the financial burden of supporting them (a third adult) could jeopardize your retirement?

The decision to have a child shouldn’t be made lightly, regardless of how strong society pushes for it. Neither should the decision to have pets, but I digress.

I do wish you and your partner all the best, and hope that you find more financial stability in your lives.

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25 points

the amount that any government pays you when you have a child is a pittance compared to the cost of having a child… especially if you want to do more than simply scrape by and have like… christmas, birthdays…

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6 points

How much do you think they pay per kid per month? How much does that kid cost? Do the math

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22 points

It’s not a radical thought, it’s just wrong.

Desired fertility is higher than actual fertility. https://ifstudies.org/blog/why-canadian-women-arent-having-the-children-they-desire

I have three kids, and if money wasn’t a factor my wife and I would probably have 4 or 5

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11 points

As the oldest of six, having grown up quite poor, thank you for stopping while still in your means.

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Desired fertility is higher than actual fertility.

From that same study, you need to acknowledge that many women also REGRET having kids or too many kids.

““excess” births have a larger unhappiness effect than “missing” births individually,”

Also, from that same study, which basically proves my original point:

“Many factors influence Canadian women in having fewer children than they desire, but the most influential factors relate to the ideas that children are burdensome, that parenting is intensive and time-consuming, and that women want to finish self-development and exploration before having children. The view that parenting is demanding is a bigger factor for low fertility than is housing or childcare costs.”

Literally, the study being reported says that housing and childcare costs are NOT the biggest factor. Exactly as I said.

I wish you guys downvoting would at least read the damn study before shooting the messenger.

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Much of that regret comes from cost pressures, not the actual existence of the children. Even if you can “afford” children, having to have both parents work full time to afford them doesn’t make it easy to actually raise them.

If one parents was SAH and money still wasn’t a problem there would be far fewer regrets.

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13 points

“I’m comfortable, surely everyone else is then.”

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Here’s a radical thought: Maybe people simply don’t want to be burdened by kids.

The studies cited in the op-ed show many people who want kids aren’t having them due to the cost of living.

Maybe then we can start normalizing the fact that not everyone actually wants (or needs) kids.

Definitely, that would be healthy for people and more environmentally sustainable.

The op-ed is not referring to people who don’t want kids, however, it’s looking at surveys where people say they can’t afford to have kids.

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The studies cited in the op-ed show many people who want kids aren’t having them due to the cost of living.

That’s not true. The study cited expliciitaly states that:

“… the most influential factors relate to the ideas that children are burdensome, that parenting is intensive and time-consuming, and that women want to finish self-development and exploration before having children. The view that parenting is demanding is a bigger factor for low fertility than is housing or childcare costs.”

The op-ed is not referring to people who don’t want kids…

Fair point, but it is basing the op-ed on a survey that does refer to women who did not want kids, and when you consolidate the data, it’s pretty clear that there’s some reporting bias at play.

Still, to the point, cost of living is not the driving factor to low fertility.

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