Foreign Minister Penny Wong says Israel has a right to defend itself, and judging its security decisions from a distance is “very difficult”, as Israel’s government vows to cut off food and water to the blockaded Gaza Strip.

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Why should they provide those things to a group they are at war with? After their government slaughtered a bunch of civilians?

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It wasn’t their government. It was an organisation started by an Israeli government at the time to combat the PLO

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17 years since the last election indicates that may no longer be the case

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The flip side of that coin is it’s pretty bad to make a independent population, who can’t vote in your elections, totally dependent on you. Preventing them from having independent sources of water electricity and food. Preventing them from self-determination and self-governance.

This all ties back to the core issues here. There’s a population that has no autonomy, no say in its future, no say and it’s foreign policy, de facto non-citizens in the state they can’t participate in. That’s not a stable situation, in any society.

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Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, have vowed to exterminate Israel. Of course they’re not going to let them self govern.

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You only need to look at the West Bank for an example of how things would play out with a more cooperative Palestinian government. Same shit, no autonomy, no say in its future, no say in its foreign policy, with the added bonus of a slow ethnic cleansing as Israel slowly annexes it’s land.

There are no good guys here.

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