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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

Jesus fucking Christ.

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This feels like a humanitarian crisis that will soon become a full genocide.

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It feels like the Israeli govt has used this terrorist attack to become terrorists themselves.

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39 points

I mean they’ve been like that since forever, but now they’re showing their true colors (more than they were).

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I don’t think it is outside of the realm of possibility that in 30 years we learn that the Mossad knew about this and were ordered to let it happen. The intelligence fuckup was so enormous that it seems plausible they at least knew something was up. And the Israeli government has proven itself cynical enough to lend such a thought possible.

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For a long time I’ve thought of the situation there as a slow-motion genocide. Looks like they’re using the “surprise” attack by Hamas as an excuse to go full Hitler.

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I think we’ll see Israel just bomb the entire strip into a crater, they’ve spent the last 20 odd years working on weaponry that’s specifically designed to destroy Palestine, they’ve just been waiting for something they can use as an excuse to use it all.

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They are “acting accordingly” by performing an ethnic cleansing. How disgustingly ironic.

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Israel’s “peace talks” are nonsense.

Israelis have stolen their land and homes, have performed ethnic cleansing, stripped them of their rights, and acted like they’re the victims the entire time.

There’s no good solution here, but an Israeli solution is not any solution at all.

“Israel offering peace talks” is like me offering you a couch after I steal your land and burned your house down. It isn’t workable.

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There can be no effective peace talks between the neck and the sword.

Palestinians have always been a people with a homeland but deprived of a state, their identity forged by oppression and resistance under a succession of empires. They were not called to give any input on the British decision to carve out their land for a Jewish state. They were driven out of their land by the millions, and those that remained were squeezed tighter and tigther, slowly pushed out of the usable land by illegal colonists which are protected by the state of Israel. Palestinian statehood was neglected for long enough that Israel was able to shatter or consume all Palestinian territory, making a Palestinian state inviable.

The state of Israel is entirely the product of imperialism, first British and now American. There can be no peaceful two-state solution because one of these states should not exist! The only peace will be a one-state peace, and it can only be achieved through bloodshed. Either the Palestinian people will finally gain their sovereignty, or the Zionists will finish building their monoethnic, theocratic paradise over the crushed bones of Palestine.

The idea that “some societies are just evil” is a very poor excuse to justify apartheid, but it’s certainly not a new one. What is more “evil”: to hate those that invaded your land and deprived you not only of self-determination, but of food, water and a future? Or to consider those of a different religion and cultural background as “human animals”, spit on them and their religious symbols, arrest their children and deprive them of their human rights, kick their elders to the curb, drive them out of their family farms and into crowded and guarded ghettos?

Calling that heinous conclusion you came to rational is an offense to reason and to all moral and reasonable people.

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I totally agree with you.

In the same vein, Ukraine has totally ignored various offers from Russia and isn’t a true partner for peace.

All they need to do is compromise and give up their land.

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The only way there will be peace is if Israel moves. Any other negotiations are pointless. There is no path to peace with Israel staying where it is.

Ignorant statement of the day: the only “apartheid” states in the Middle East are Arab ones. I’ve been on projects where Muslims tried to separate Americans with PhDs and Masters degrees from their teams and put them in slums just because of the color of their skin or their ancestry

Imagine siding with the oppressors and not the oppressed and trying to darvo literal genocide.

You both sides this argument then side with the fascists. Wow.

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“no one will bat an eye”

Where were all the batting eyes when the shoe was on the other foot?

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ok Israel, tell us you’re openly planning to violate the Geneva Convention without telling us…

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They already have for decades. It’s pretty well known they have killed wounded, children and civilian/non-combatants, and specifically target medical facilities. There’s even no actual Red Cross in Israel, the President of Israel appoints the president of the Magen David Adom. Something that only happens in a few authoritarian contexts. The ICRC has spend decades trying to get them to international humanitarian standards, but they stubbornly refused and even used financial manipulation (from the American Red Cross on behalf of Israel) to pressure the movement into folding to their demands. Even after being admitted with the approval of the red crystal, they still continue to violate the conditions of their admittance to the movement. They are not supposed to operate outside of Israel but still act on the West Bank and break the conditions all the time. They’re the only Red Cross who is mandated by their state to act as an arm of the army in the event of a war. Something that is explicitly against the principles of the movement and the Conventions.

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Best not to poke bomb the sleeping giant.

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