Seems like a win win. Reddit is fine with it and becomes a site promoting that Taiwan is a country and spreading awareness of Tiananmen Square massacre 1989. While subs return to normal.
Or reveals themselves to be the mouth piece of the CCP if they force removal of Taiwan is a country and Tiananmen Square massacre 1989.
Edit: #taiwanisacountry should be enough. That mere statement has been enough for western capitalists to quake in fear.
CCP doesn’t need to “fall apart”. China just needs to progress in a new direction. If China goes democratic, and someday it will, it could be wise to leverage Taiwan’s democracy to make the entire process more stable. This is what happened in Germany. West Germany’s government simply absorbed the former East Germany. So for a time the West German capital of Bonn was the capital of the unified Germany.
differences between west germany / east germany v taiwan / china
1 - population
east germany 1989 - Around 16 million
west germany 1989 - Around 62 million
east germany was about 1/4th the size of west germany in terms of population
taiwan current - Around 23 million
china current - Around 1.4 billion
china has about 61x the population of taiwan in terms of population
2 - gdp
east germany 1989 - around $300 billion
west germany 1989 - around $1.5 trillion
east germany was about 1/5th the size of west germany in terms of GDP
taiwan current - around $760 billion
china current - around $17 trillion
china has about 13x the size of taiwan’s GDP
3 - time period separated
germany - around 41 years
china - around 74 years
china and taiwan have been separated nearly double the time as germany - with no reunification in sight
So in the case of East Germany vs West Germany, the West was significantly larger both in terms of GDP and population. West Germany was about 4x~5x bigger and was able to incorporate the East because they were bigger. In addition, they were separated for a shorter amount of time… the longer it goes on the more complicated it gets.
If we look at Taiwan and China, Chinese economy and population is somewhere between 1 and 2 factors of magnitude larger. Taiwan simply does not have the capacity to incorporate China. The state apparatus in mainland China is absolutely massive - it’s hard to fathom how many bureaucrats are needed to effectively run that country.
Having said all that, looking at the future of China, I sincerely doubt there will be a democratic revolution. The approval rating for the CCP is very high (much higher than democratic countries in the West). China has historically been authoritarian. They have taken the capitalist model and effectively used it in an authoritarian state. It works well for them and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
Of course, nobody can tell the future. With the accelerating pace of technology and the inevitable climate change and who knows how much radical change there will be in the coming decades.
The approval rating for the CCP is very high (much higher than democratic countries in the West).
First of all NEVER EVER believe that a dictatorship has a “very high approval rating”. (1) the people have never approved them ever, and (2) If their approval rating really was “very high”, there would be no reason at all not to allow democracy. (3) naive westerners have a long and famous history about being repeatedly conned by dictatorships.
And 2nd LOL that is obvious BS. This happened LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_COVID-19_protests_in_China
differences between west germany / east germany v taiwan / china
Dude, I already knew all that stuff. So what? None of that is relevant to what I said. The fact remains that (1) Taiwan’s government could be extremely useful in helping China convert to democracy in a stable manner, and (2) It is totally impossible for Taiwan to unify with China unless China becomes democratic like Taiwan. So since #2 is a necessity, it follow that #1 will always be a very important consideration.
taiwanese government could be extremely useful in helping China convert to democracy in a stable manner
there are 10 million bureaucrats in china
that’s already half of the population of taiwan alone. the city of shanghai has a bigger population than taiwan
So what? None of that is relevant to what I said.
yes, it is. it’s logistically impossible. i tried to elaborate on why because to hold a belief like you do someone must not know all of the obvious facts
It is totally impossible for Taiwan to unify with China unless China becomes democratic like Taiwan
it’s very possible. it’s happening right now in Hong Kong. China just takes over and slowly integrates it and removes the democracy bit by bit. I think it’s so strange how you make a comment pretending reality is some way when it isn’t. I get it - I support Taiwan too. I prefer Democracies over authoritarian regimes. But let’s be real here
First of all NEVER EVER believe that a dictatorship has a “very high approval rating”.
independent organizations have done studies in China. they really do support the CCP. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
it’s sort of a side effect from the “heavenly mandate” idea in China. they’ve always had authoritarian leaders. as long as the economy is doing well the people tolerate anything. and china has been growing fast for decades now