Elon Musk has until the end of Wednesday to respond to demands from Brussels to remove graphic images and disinformation linked to the violence in Israel from his social network X — or face the full force of Europe’s new social media rules.

Thierry Breton, the European Union commissioner who oversees the bloc’s Digital Services Act (DSA) rules, wrote to the owner of X, formerly Twitter, to warn Musk of his obligations under the bloc’s content rules.

If Musk fails to comply, the EU’s rules state X could face fines of up to 6 percent of its revenue for potential wrongdoing. Under the regulations, social media companies are obliged to remove all forms of hate speech, incitement to violence and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Since Hamas launched its violent attacks on Israel on October 7, X has been flooded with images, videos and hashtags depicting — in graphic detail — how hundreds of Israelis have been murdered or kidnapped. Under X’s own policies, such material should also be removed immediately.

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My favourite is “absolute free speech!!” combined with “if you say something someone doesn’t like, they are entitled to punch you”

Or “freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences” lmao but then it’s not [absolute] free speech

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No, you don’t understand, it’s easy:

  • if the government punishes you for what you said, it’s an attack on Free Speech™
  • if woke Twitter cancels you for what you said, it’s an attack on Free Speech™
  • if a far-right/Republican shoots you down for what you said, it’s just the consequences of your Free Speech™
  • if you’re writing a book about sexual education, it’s not Free Speech™ anymore, and you should be censored

Easy, huh? /s

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My favourite is “absolute free speech!!” combined with “if you say something someone doesn’t like, they are entitled to punch you”

Anyone who says that is forgetting that punching falls under assault.

Hate speech is far beyond merely “something I don’t like”. It is advocating for the oppression and even eradication of people based on their very identity.

Hate speech should not be tolerated if we want to live in a society that tolerates the existence of others. (So called “paradox of tolerance” which is really not a paradox when you frame it as I have). We can tolerate the existence of bigoted assholes but prohibit them spreading their bigotry. Otherwise we live in a society that supports intolerance.

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Exactly

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Its freedom of speech from the government not carte blanche to say what you want.

Granted even that is still slightly restricted.

It baffles me that y’all are ok with being muzzled.

Straight talk time.

Those images should be posted and not removed.

People need to see what is happening for them to react.

Pictures and videos proved the holocaust to the world.

Pictures and videos got the us out of Vietnam

People need to see things that make them viscerally uncomfortable.

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The only images the EU asked to have removed are images from unrelated conflicts and video games portrayed as geniune images of the current events, so blatant disinformation.

It’s in the request made by the EU. The Politico article made up the part where all graphic images are to be removed.

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Politico is engaged in blatant disinformation. How surprising. The actual text of the letter from the EU is online and it is very clear what they are demanding.

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I kinda want to see if we can post enough screenshots from DayZ and Left 4 Dead, calling them photos from our neighborhood to get the AI media to report on a global zombie virus.

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Ah

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That is context I did not have and falls under fake news / propaganda. I have no problem seeing dumb false shit removed.

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The images in question were photos and videos from previous conflicts or video games being passed off as photos and videos of the ongoing conflict.

This is not a free speech issue this is a prevention of misinformation.

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Thank you! I wrote my edit before I read any replies but that’s exactly it 👍

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Its freedom of speech from the government not carte blanche to say what you want.

No other institution can instill punishment for speech except the government, so freedom of speech from the government means freedom of speech absolute. Joe Blogs migh have a pop at me, but then he’s guilty of assault. My employer might decide my views are not consistent with theirs, but unless I was acting as their representative at the time most decent worker protection laws across the globe would deem it as you acting as a private individual, and therefore none of your employer’s concern.

Now, is it polite, civil and sociable to say certain things? No, but if I’m prepared to contravene social etiquette, I can say whatever I want under a system of protected speech from the government.

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