They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog “Tutsi.”

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

“They are breaking down the safe room door,” Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. “We need someone to come by the house right now.” She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the “sweetest biggest heart,” who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

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Palestinians knew who they were when they elected them.

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Israel knew who Netanyahu was when they elected him.

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Sure. And Netanyahu is a right-wing asshole. But he isn’t a terrorist.

You see the difference?

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I’m not here to argue semantics, Hamas are terrorists, Netanyahu is a terrorist.

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Hamas are terrorists, Netanyahu is a terrorist. If a terrorist is someone who attacks civilians for political aims.

I find it hard to discriminate Civilian A who was killed from Civilian B who was killed by the other side. Apparently that is a controversial statement around here. Ya’ll are fucked.

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Obviously not.

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Hamas was never elected as sole leadership in Palestine. They never won a plurality of votes, ever.

They formed a unity government, then fought the other government, usurped control, and cancelled elections forever.

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Hamas won 74 out of 132 seats. They did it with 44 percent of the vote. Not sure how that worked.

Anyway, you’re kind of right, kind of wrong.

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Same way Republicans do it in Ohio, one assumes. Heavy concentration in minority-population areas.

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And the Palestinian authority is really a puppet government that Israel allows Palestine to have, so it’s not like any available option is really good

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No lol. One of Israel’s dumbest moves ever was empowering Hamas as they saw it as an alternative to the Palestinian Authority

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This should be said more often and more forcefully, as its knowledge people (including myself) are not generally aware of.

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20 years ago. Around half of today’s population didn’t vote and of the ones that did many didn’t vote for hamas. Find a new way to blame innocent people, this one doesn’t work.

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Half of the population is below 19 years old. So they weren’t even born when Hamas was elected.

The average age of Palestinians is 19. The average age of Israelis is 30. That tells you one thing, that you don’t live a long life if your Palestinian.

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Living in what human rights groups and the UN describe as an open air prison under bombarded from a neighboring country isn’t exactly the best thing for life expectancy.

Roughly 2.3 million people live on the Gaza Strip out of the roughly 5 million people living in Palestine BTW, which is the area currently being bombarded by Israel in response to the terrorist attack by Hamas.

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I don’t think we should condemn an entire population to death regardless of who they vote for. You’re only adding recruitment material to the terrorist’s repertoire at that point. And if they did vote for them, last year or today, you still have roughly 40% of the population who are minors. Do they deserve death because of their parent’s vote?

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Why the downvotes? If you really want to learn, Hasan Piker has been educating me about this entire conflict lately.

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Overwhelmingly? In Gaza maybe, but Palestinians as a whole support them at 53 percent at last count. So, yeah, it sure looks like they are still majority pro-hamas

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50% of the persons living in palestina are under 18

Edit: had a stroke

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Yeah. I wish their parents loved them more than they hate Israel.

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Are you a troll or something?

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