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3 points

1 year ago

So just ignore history then huh?

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2 points

1 year ago

I have literally no idea what you’re referring to here. I said absolutely nothing about ignoring history or the justification of either side.

I am saying this attack was stupidly executed. I could not think of a more stupid way of doing it. They exactly pissed off everyone while making zero impact on either Israeli occupational strength or military capability. In chess, they opened with pawn to F3. I have seen that memorably described as “the worst opening move, other than just resigning.”

It’s so astoundingly stupid that I just know something’s going to come to light later about it. Right now my best guess is a within-party struggle in Hamas. I would not be surprised if there’s factional fighting going on as well, or overtures being made. But I do not think Israel is going to make a compromise that doesn’t leave them toothless and involve the surrender of a lot of leadership.

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12 points

1 year ago

History as in every country that has gotten bombed the fuck out in the last 100 or so years has spawned terrorist cells who then spawn others. What makes you think this time will ignore all of history and somehow be different.

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1 point

1 year ago

I am not saying that this current conflict is going to end “terrorism” in Israel. I am saying it is going to end Hamas as a political force. The IDF will kill many, and intelligence services will target others in a “gloves off” fashion.

I am equally sure there will still be bombs on busses.

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5 points

1 year ago

I don’t think it will, Hamas leadership are likely cloistered in friendly countries and will continue regardless.

There always will be because it gets headlines, both sides of this conflict are quite familiar with civilian bombings.

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0 points

1 year ago

Generally speaking - and we’re getting a bit more theoretical here - you cannot lead an organization like Hamas remotely. There are people on the ground in country who have a level of … enthusiasm … that when combined with charisma and their carefully maintained support networks will dislocate persons who have the disadvantage of communication delay and not being in the room for the meeting, as it were. Someone particularly famous can pull it off for a time if they have trusted lieutenants, but it’s precarious.

I doubt that Osama was in active control of Al Qaeda from Pakistan. These aren’t organizations that send an email that cc’s your boss. These people will shoot you if they think you’re weak or ineffective.

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1 point

1 year ago

Figureheads aren’t leaderships and that is generally what is referred to as “leadership”. Almost every fighting force at this point is lead at ground level and coordinated with other services, even the cartels do it.

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-2 points

1 year ago

There simply won’t be a Hamas to join going forward.

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4 points

1 year ago

There will always be an existential enemy, always.

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