Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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Disgusting. These people had nothing to do with the attack. The actions of a few do not justify the wholesale slaughter of a nation.

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Imagine if some proud boys from the US were attacking Canadian civilians, after Canada has been occasionally striking the US and being quite excessive in its use of force.

Then one day Mexico warns Canada that the proud boys might strike this location this week, so Canada pulls its security and guards, the proud boys attack, Canada loudly yells to everyone in the world “OH NO CANADA IS ATTACKING ME DO YOU GUYS SEE THIS SHIT?”

And then Canada proceeds to bomb the absolute fuck out of EVERY city within 10 miles of the border. And then the refugees that are leaving the cities. And then telling them “hey we promise we won’t bomb you if you go this route” and then bomb that route. And sends troops into refugee camps in order to decide who is suddenly a proud boy…

The world, as usual when it comes to Israel though, completely loses its minds.

It’s like everyone is so afraid of being seen as a nazi, they won’t aim even the tiniest criticism toward a government/military. It strikes me as profoundly racist to conflate every Jewish person with the government of Israel, or that somehow Israel represents all jews. Imagine if I suggested Kenya speaks for all black people…

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It’s like everyone is so afraid of being seen as a nazi

You got it backwards. It’s not that they are afraid, it’s that every Nazi thing you do becomes unimportant if you support Israel and yell “look, I’m not a Nazi, because I support Israel”.

That’s a huge, huge stimulus for support. Now if you’ve done Nazi things, Israel is your salvation. And if you haven’t done Nazi things cause you’re afraid, just get friendly with Israel.

They are basically selling modern day’s indulgences.

And Israel, of course, endorses that via its puppet diasporan organizations and their moves like “anything but Holocaust is not a genocide, and if you don’t agree, you’re a Nazi” or “you can’t be Nazi if you’re Jewish” and, of course, “if you don’t support Israel, you are not Jewish”.

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There’s no use in analogising such a complex situation, it utterly fails to capture the situation or the context. You’re also welcome to theorise whether or not Israel deliberately sought the deaths of 2000 citizens just to cleanse Gaza but that’s a massive claim for someone not privy to classified knowledge.

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You’re also welcome to theorise whether or not Israel deliberately sought the deaths of 2000 citizens just to cleanse Gaza but that’s a massive claim for someone not privy to classified knowledge.

Whether it sought that or not, it was awfully unprepared for the attack itself, but amazingly well prepared for all the followup military, diplomatic and propaganda actions. So I’m starting to think this is not a conspiracy theory.

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This doesn’t make any damn sense. No one elected the proudboys to run the entire gov. The Palestinians did with Hamas. You’re acting like it’s a small group, when it’s not. A majority of Palestinians elected Hamas to represent them, and they support it.

Now you can have the debate of is Israel the cause and is this response equal or if this was all a setup to start the war, but don’t act like Hamas is a minority and the people don’t support them.

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If I understand correctly, Hamas won their majority of parliamentary seats of Gaza’s government despite only having 1/3rd of the population casting votes for them.

Source: this YouTube video by Task & Purpose (just found this channel and this video covering the conflict over the last few days seems remarkably unemotional and mostly unbiased.)

https://youtu.be/lbSFJaFuWU0?si=ITFEngYEbsySW1nm&t=28m43s

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Nice to hear a balanced view - thank you!

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Not condoning any cruelty, but Hamas had like 70% support in Gaza

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