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Those concessions don’t apply to their EV factories, both existing and new, meaning they are worthless in 5-10 years when they phase ICE out. They want, and frankly deserve, long term guarantees.

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“The company said it had offered pay increases of more than 20% to permanent workers, raises of 26% for temporary workers, the return of cost-of-living adjustments, a ratification bonus, increased 401(k) contributions, additional paid time off and “no job loss due to EV battery plants,” among other things” https://www.axios.com/2023/10/12/uaw-strike-update-ford-shawn-fain

Incorrect. And you’re dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

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As of 10/4:

Ford has not agreed to restore defined-benefit pensions and company-financed health care in retirement for all workers. Ford says it is also opposed to a UAW demand to guarantee that future battery factories will offer the same pay and benefits as existing factories.

The UAW says that GM still isn’t meeting the union’s demands on cost-of-living adjustment to wages. And GM hasn’t agreed to allow workers to strike over plant closures.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/04/uaw-strike-automaker-offers/

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My article is from the 12th. Crazy thing about negotiations, your article from 10/4 is wrong. The date matters and you are providing outdated information.

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And you’re dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

Check out the title of this article. GM is aiming to phase out ICE in 12 years. No it’s not Ford, and goals aren’t always met but the transition is happening sooner or later.

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