Australian national broadcaster ABC has projected three states voted No, effectively defeating the referendum.

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There was absolutely no reason to vote no to this.

Of course there was. Enshrining different rights to different people in the constitution based on their race, is fundamentally objectionable.

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I feel like you say that without the context of anything. In isolation what you say might be true but within context it’s just fairly clear to see why you’d get a minority group committee of advisers to be more widely heard. “Different rights to different people” is literally how the world works. If you want to pretend that majority bias doesn’t exist then so be it, I can’t change your support for systemic racism.

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When you choose to use the expression “absolutely no reason”, it is trivially easy to disprove your claim. My argument is one of them, and it is a valid reason to vote no. Your further arguments are valid reasons to vote “yes”, and their pros and cons may or may not outweigh each other.

But you are verifiably wrong to claim that there are no reasons to vote no. Opposing race-based legislation in all its forms is a very valid position, and the only non-racist position possible to take in this.

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Sorry, I figured you wouldn’t be pedantic. I clearly meant no valid reason that I see to vote no. Racism and support of systemic racism is a reason, you are right. Go get your internet pedantic star.

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They know. The whole “progressives are the real racists” shtick is just a way for them to chew up values and spit them back in peoples faces.

They’re not actually concerned about genuine racism and routinely tolerate it, if not outright support it.

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Like enshrining the position of head of state as being the next in line for a particular family who are born & live on the other side of the world?

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For the love of democracy let’s not fuck that one up again next time it comes around. Based on yesterday the next PM may well be one of our most evil statesmen around. I think the ARM is planning for a 2027 republican referendum… please let’s not elect a skilled reactionary to lead our country when the time comes.

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Judging by the way the vote went in previous libs, now teal seats, it may be more likely he’s cemented his status as unelectable.

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That is entirely irrelevant. “The king exists, therefore the constitution should give different rights to regular people based on their race”. Disgusting argument.

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Im pointing out the hypocrisy, not providing an endorsement of monarchy. The Australian constitution has an original sin baked in, so pretending it’s a sacred document and not already a biased setup is naive.

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That’s already occurred. Google it.

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Hard to say that the right to be heard is objectionable imo

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Everybody should have the same right to be heard. Different people having different rights to be heard, based on their race, is absolutely objectionable. And racist.

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You’re looking at a set of unequal scales and saying they should be equal, while refusing to place more weight onto either side…

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