Was just thinking that there should be doctor clubs, where a bunch of people pool their money to hire a dedicated general physician. Or to have a shared tailor, or group cafeteria, or whatever.

The ratio of people covered to specialists would probably determine whether it’s feasible. You’d want the specialist to still get paid a healthy (and guaranteed) salary and to have a more satisfying relationship with customers. And the members of the club to get better service / product than they would otherwise with middlemen taking a cut.

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I support single payer. Just realize your taxes will go up significantly in a single payer system. At least 20%.

Everyone will have to pay to make it work but I hint it’s a solid investment in our country

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But your insurance premiums will go down by more than your taxes go up, for most of us working shulbs, anyway.

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No. Not even close. I pay 100 dollars a month for insurance.

If my taxes go up by 20%, that’s more than 100 dollars a month.

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That’s where it gets complicated. Your employer pays a lot more than $100. Your taxes would go up and your employer could be mandated to pass the healthcare savings on to you to largely offset your tax increase. The Wyden-Bennet plan predated the Affordable Care Act and would have mandated that. Obama’s healthcare people were concerned that would be very complex and would go back on his promise to allow people to keep their current doctors and insurance. So we ended up with a huge expansion in Medicaid instead (which was great but didn’t give us the systemic change we really needed).

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Taxes go up, but money paid to health insurance goes down.
And you’re already paying most of the operating costs of universal healthcare in the form of Medicare/Medicaid administration taxes, you’re just not eligible to benefit.

So your taxes will increase, but not as much as you expect, and your total deductions will decrease unless you opt to keep private insurance.
Every analysis of the topic inevitably concludes that we’re currently using the most expensive method of providing healthcare.

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I’d expect about 20%. That seems to the number floated around by most the think tanks.

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20% of my taxes is much less than my current employer plan cost.

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You are wrong. Costs will go down compared to health insurance costs in United States right now. Might end up taxing currently uninsured more but for most will be less and folks in poverty will gain more than they lose anyway

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You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that.

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All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.

It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying

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