Considering what happened in Al Ahli Hospital…

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Israel has proven they aren’t trustworthy time and time again, there is no reason to take anything they say at face value. I am not saying tey are incapable of telling the truth, but their statements shouldn’t just be assumed true either.

The default positon with Israel shouldn’t be “how do I debunk their claim” but “is there enough verifiable third party information that could prove they are actually telling the truth”?

It seems extremely suspect that their intelligence were able to produce a phone conversation that “confirms” exactly what the point of view they wanted. The same intelligence agency that apparently had no idea the operation was taking place is now able to isolate a singular phone conversation in the ensuing chaos, exactly when it would be the best possible PR move for them to make. Not to mention that I seriously doubt Hamas OPSEC is so poor that they are just making direct statements like that on the phone after keeping months of planning a perfect secret.

Imagine if, prior to the Iraq war, America produced a phone conversation between two people with texan accents that went “Yes, it is a good thing we got all this yellowcake, isn’t it fellow terrorist?” “Yes, I too hate America fellow other terrorist”. This is what that phone call sounds like.

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The default positon with Israel shouldn’t be “how do I debunk their claim” but “is there enough verifiable third party information that could prove they are actually telling the truth”?

Well, that’s what I was trying to find… sorry if I sounded weird, but to me, this doesn’t seem to look like one of those simple false anecdotal claims like “Hamas uses human shields” sort of thing…

Imagine if, prior to the Iraq war, America produced a phone conversation between two people with texan accents that went “Yes, it is a good thing we got all this yellowcake, isn’t it fellow terrorist?” “Yes, I too hate America fellow other terrorist”. This is what that phone call sounds like.

Now that I think of it, I should relisten to that call…

Edit: The tone reminds me of one of those English as a second language learning sources for foreigners…

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