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Both Russia and China have clearly stated that the UN resolution stating that Palestine has to be granted independence must be implemented. Both Russia and China are demanding that Israel stops its genocidal campaign against Palestinians. This is literally the resolution that Russia introduced at the UN securitry council stated and the west voted down. US has now both amendments proposed by Russia on Wednesday

If you don’t understand how stopping the genocide in Gaza and implementing an independent state of Palestine is direct and tangible support, then I don’t know what else to tell you.

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Both Russia and China have clearly stated that the UN resolution stating that Palestine has to be granted independence must be implemented.

Do you have a source for that?

Both Russia and China are demanding that Israel stops its genocidal campaign against Palestinians.

Not really. Both resolutions called for humanitarian ceasefire, release of all hostages, aid access, and safe evacuation of civilians. Nowhere, did it acknowledge what is happening in Gaza by the Israel hand same way it didn’t include the language of “self-defense” that Israel and US wanted. Fucking theater, everyone knew going in they wouldn’t pass. Posturing doesn’t solve anything.

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The resolutions that US vetoed were the first step. First thing that needs to happen is to stop Israel from doing a ground invasion in Gaza. This isn’t theatre this would literally save countless thousands of lives.

China has also formally stated that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defense

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/china-israels-actions-in-gaza-have-gone-beyond-the-scope-of-self-defense/

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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231012-putin-reiterates-russias-support-for-an-independent-palestinian-state/

This is identical to what TASS released. But I can’t find where they initially pledged their support for the independent Palestinian state. Do you have a source for that?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/chinas-xi-jinping-backs-just-cause-of-palestinian-statehood

Thanks. Rare area where I agree with China.

The resolutions that US vetoed were the first step. First thing that needs to happen is to stop Israel from doing a ground invasion in Gaza. This isn’t theatre this would literally save countless thousands of lives.

I don’t disagree with you on the merits that the resolution passing would be a positive thing, it’s just that it was a stupid show and nothing else. Everyone going in knew that it won’t pass and everyone was free to vote however they wanted as it would have been vetoed either way if not by US, then by France or UK. So it is theater and political games on internation scale without any real solution.

China has also formally stated that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defense

As did EU, but it’s pointless words without further actions. Both EU and China pledged humanitarian aid to Gaza, but it can’t even be delivered without Israel approval, and they simply refuse.

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