I’m not the person you’re replying to, but maybe as far back as we have receipts?
In this case, there’s no mystery about who did what to whom and what they took. The Dutch and English kept very good records. In fact, the whole colonial project was very well accounted for.
I’m not the person you’re replying to, but maybe as far back as we have receipts?
Is there any limit to this principle?
Apparently, otherwise we would have begun the work of dismantling Western imperialism.
Do you think there should be a limit?
I personally think we should work to redress the wrongs we can, and in this case, the West could be doing a lot more to fix their crimes and being a lot less uppity about it.
Apparently, otherwise we would have begun the work of dismantling Western imperialism.
Do you think there should be a limit?
Seemingly controversially, I don’t believe in ancestral guilt. As a mixed-race individual, I’m not half-oppressor and half-oppressed. Reparations should be to the extent of bringing others in-line with an equal and whole share of the polity - or the international community, as the case may be.
As such, I would not regard there as being a set number for reparations - however many trillions it takes, it is the responsibility of those who have the necessary resources to assist those who lack the same access to resources. This is not a matter of debts to be ‘repaid’, it is a matter of recognizing the equal worth and humanity of others, regardless of nation. It is not a matter of guilt when the grandchildren of the grandchildren of the people who did these crimes are, themselves, long dead. These problems arose from division - they must end in unity and brotherhood.
Obviously, there are also more recent crimes to be answered for - these are a debt in a much more real sense, and it necessary for governments to both acknowledge wrongdoing and make compensation to survivors or immediate family under civil law. Though obviously nothing can undo a crime once committed, that is the process that is generally agreed upon.
I don’t think anyone seriously thinks guilt can be inherited… “Ancestral guilt” is a totally stupid concept, and framing colonial reparations that way is arguing in bad faith.
I thought it would be funny to point out we literally have the receipts of colonialism, but that turned out to be arguing with pigeons.
I am glad the nicer version of the argument you have created for yourself matches up with the argument that you wish they had made.