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A UBI turns everybody into a pensioner.

Wait what? This is not even close to true.

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A UBI turns everybody into a pensioner.

Wait what? This is not even close to true.

A pensioner receives a stable income for life even when they are not working.

A UBI recipient receives a stable income for life even when they are not working.

It seems to me like a pretty similar situation. And what do most people do when they are eligible to receive a pension? They stop working. They may do a little volunteering on the side, but it’s not typically on the ballpark of what they did before.

I’d like to hear your counterpoint.

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They are not 67 years old for one.

Come on, this is not a serious argument and you know it.

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They are not 67 years old for one.

Do early retirees act any differently? My kid’s teacher retired at 55 and she wasn’t talking of all the work she was planning to do afterwards. I know a couple other healthy early retirees and they don’t do anything productive either.

The funny thing is people in this thread are complaining that rich people contribute nothing to society, but they avoid saying that the reason rich people don’t work is because they don’t have to. We all know that if we didn’t have to work we would not do a fraction of what we do today.

If we reduce the number of people who actually work and contribute to our tax base, there will be not enough budget to fund UBI, healthcare, or anything else.

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