A Detroit synagogue president was found fatally stabbed outside her home Saturday morning.

Samantha Woll, 40, led the congregation of Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue. The synagogue confirmed Woll’s death Saturday in a statement writing, “We are shocked and saddened to learn of the unexpected death of Samantha Woll, our Board President.”

“May her memory be a blessing,” the statement continued.

Authorities said a 911 call was made to Woll’s home early Saturday, reporting an individual lying on the ground unresponsive. Police discovered multiple stab wounds on Woll’s body and found a trail of blood leading to her house, where they believe the crime occurred.

An investigation is underway. At this time, the motive for the crime remains unknown.

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Far right white supremacist killings of Jews is far more prevalent in the US than Muslim killings of Jews. My first suspects would be among the extreme right.

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The whole far right media ecosystem is fucked. There was also the young Palestinian boy stabbed to death by a white right-wing nutjob for being Muslim recently because of the media’s portrayal of this conflict.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-wadea-al-fayoume-death-was-obsessed-israel-hamas-war-prosecuto-rcna120589

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Ordinarily I’d agree with you, but Occam’s razor doesn’t. Metro Detroit is home to the largest Arabic community in the country. I believe Jewish/Arab relations are pretty sound there, but given the current circumstances…

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That explains why detroit is so F up…

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2 points

The fuck is your problem man

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1 point

That was unnecessary

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28 points

Far right arab supremacists also exist. Impossible to rule them out especially given the timing and circumstances.

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place your bets place your bets will it be a nazi, a klansman, a jihadist, death by cop (never discount the possibility) or just some other random murderer? AAAAAMERRRRRICA THE LAND OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY

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9 points

Forgetting the biggest cause of murders for women in the US: it was someone they knew, probably a lover.

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Right? Stabbings are a strictly American phenomenon, as is racially or religiously motivated violence and just violence in general. Don’t see any of those happening anywhere else in the entire world, people in other countries have pillowfights at most. America wake up, everywhere else is a utopia while you slide into a dystopia.

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Maybe but the extreme right are mostly cowards that like to use firearms. A stabbing is off brand for right wing MAGAts.

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11 points

Nope. Remember the 71yo landlord who stabbed his Muslim tenants recently? Mother and her 6yo boy?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/15/plainfield-illinois-plainfield-six-year-old-muslim-boy-mother-murder-hate-crime

They like guns, but it seems most of them accidentally shoot each other/themselves.

But yes, cowards that like guns is true.

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Interesting, but that does seems right.

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Talking out of my ass here, but I’ve heard that stabbing is a more personal crime. You need to get closer so it’s more likely to be someone that feels deeply threatened or personally hurt.

That might be why we see these antisemitic attacks being stabbings, because the extremists feel deeply terrified and hurt.

I’m not justifying the crime - it’s evil and they need to be locked up. But we need to understand where this extremism is coming from if we want to stop it.

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You are right in that stabbings feel much more personal psychologically, but I would imagine a murderer would pick the most sure weapon if it was entirely premeditated. It seems as though the guy had no intention of hiding the killing.

I’m sure many of these extremists were either charged with a felony before or involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. Both mean that they are federally banned from guns for life. I think many of these murders are out of strong rage rather than calculated killings, but they’d still probably prefer to use a gun if they had easy access.

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How can they say that shit definitively? People often stab because they don’t have access to guns, it doesn’t mean what they’re doing is personal.

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Out of morbid curiosity… are the skinheads white supremacists rooting for the Israelis or Hamas? Usually they don’t like brown people, but they also don’t like Jewish people.

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I realize this isn’t your point but I feel the need to point out that skinheads are not nazis - it is unfortunately a very well working project of cultural appropriation by the racists.

In the scene racist skinheads are mostly referred to as boneheads, a term which I think makes much more sense.

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This pile of shit isn’t the same as this other pile of shit.

Got it.

Know. Your. Shit.

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11 points

They’re rooting for the Israelis because they want the ethnostate project to succeed.

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They know no one outside of their cult is going to support them even if the Israeli government succeeds in committing genocide, don’t they?

Even if in their eyes we are blatant hypocrites, it’d be better to be a hypocrite than to give people like that an inch.

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In general, they have different things they perceive and admire about the two. Please know, I’ll be using some of their words. In Hamas, they see people battling “Degeneracy” and “Jewish Influence.” There is an admiration for Israel, as an theocratic apartheid ethnostate. Seriously, at protests, Ive seen them carry Israeli flags before. Mostly, though its a party. “The subhumans” are fighting, one will be destroyed and one will look bad in the eyes of the international community.

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I dont mean to necro anything, @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ,

https://itsgoingdown.org/neo-nazi-groups-are-attempting-to-worm-their-way-into-rallies-against-the-war-on-gaza/

This article articulates the answer to your question very well, with Nick Fuentes being quoted.

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Many Israelis are brown people, about 20 % are Palestinian and there are also Muslims in Israel. Hating or not hating Israel isn’t a litmus test for Nazis.

I guess the most Nazi standpoint on Israel-Palestine conflict is to rub one’s hands.

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Definitely the muslims. Believe it or not the far right doesn’t hate muslims, just don’t want to be around them. They think American involvement in the muslim world was a result of American military being used for Jewish interests. But they consider Israel to be the leading force in global destabilization. So 100% they are rooting for Palestine.

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And the current geopolitical climate could give the far right cover for committing antisemitic crimes. Particularity for crimes less serious (and therefore less well investigated) than murder, they can commit hate crimes and blame it on the Arabs.

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I know we’re speculating here but imo given what’s going on between Palestine and Israel I would be inclined to believe the latter rather than the former.

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what a bunch of cope lol. there are orders of magnitude more jew hating muslims than “white supremacists” in the usa.

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the DHS would disagree with you, seeing as they named White Nationalist groups the biggest terrorist threat to the USA in 2020

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I’m sure there are no political motives that influenced that.

Also that was 3 years ago. In the current climate I’m not sure I would be so sure. You have muslims ripping down posters of dead israelis all over the united states.

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Ur dumb

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