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A dude comes in my store every day to get gas and beer. On the weekends he pulls up in his giant RV. If I don’t see him for a week (pretty regular thing), when he does come back he’s been on vacation in that RV. His happy, healthy kids come in and get their drinks.

Recently he asked me if I knew anyone who could drive a medical taxi. He has a company which takes people to doctors visits. Insurance pays for it.

“I can’t find anyone to work. No one wants to work anymore. I have 10 vehicles parked right now.”

“What’s the pay? Do you do drug tests?”

MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE. DRUG TESTS.

I just told him, “dude, McDonald’s is paying $14.50 right now, starting wage. Paying people the bare damn minimum, you’ll either get them fresh out of prison or jacked up on meth. Like, holy shit man. Minimum wage? For a job that requires drug testing? You aren’t suffering. I see you taking your RV on vacation constantly. Fucking pay your employees bro. Those parked cars could be bringing in free money but rather than look at the problem, you think people don’t want to work. Pay 50 cents more than McDonalds and I’ll come work tomorrow.”

Nope. Stubborn, greedy bastard would rather have 10 cars parked.

Fuck that whole class of people.

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16 points

Did you actually go on a rant like that or was that just in your head?

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8 points

Probably the latter

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12 points

Oh no I definitely went on that rant.

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21 points
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I can understand the pay point, but not the drug one. Why would anyone hire a testable drugs user to drive? Which employers are fine with hiring drug users in general?

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12 points

Depends on the drug tests but a lot of them are very bad at catching actual drug users or popping false positives, to being so lax on the actual sample collection that people are smuggling in clean samples rather than providing their own.

So the people following the rules are being penalized and often put under scrutiny they didn’t deserve, and those that are breaking the rules in an obvious way aren’t being penalized for it.

And there are some scheduled drugs that in no way inhibit your ability to drive or work, especially when they aren’t being abused and taken infrequently. And those are the ones most likely to get you caught despite being the least likely to cause an actual problem.

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18 points

Drug users are everyone, alcohol, tobacco, coffee, some are legal, some are still detectable months after use, would you care that your cab driver got drunk last months ? I wouldn’t care.

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5 points

Well you can’t be eating those everything bagels.

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12 points

Most any restaurant.

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3 points

Why the fuck do you care if I smoke weed when I gets home from work? It doesn’t affect me at work, so? This is Boomer shit.

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26 points

Ironically meth heads can pass drug tests if they haven’t partaken recently but marijuana lingers in your fat cells for a month or more. Don’t you wish you could weed (pun intended) out people who smoked a joint last weekend while hiring more drunks and crack monkeys?

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5 points

Drug tests don’t work like you think. They don’t test for the drug itself, they test for the metabolites.

A lot of the big scary drugs your D.A.R.E. officer told you about like cocaine or LSD or meth won’t even show up on a drug test a day or two later. So I can dive into the Bolivian Marching Powder on friday after work, and pass a drug test monday.

This falls apart when you get to marijuana, and marijuana causes a lot of issues because it will show up on a drug test weeks later, and these tests cannot determine if a person is high right then, they can only test if a person has used marijuana in the last month or so. This means if I get stoned with my wife on friday I could lose my job monday.

Marijuana is popular in the US. If someone can get a job working for conpany Y for $8 per hour, or a job working for company Z for $8 per hour, but company Y does drug tests, guess who isn’t going to get employees? If you want to drug test, you have to pay for workers who will pass it.

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19 points

maybe OP is alluding to marijuana when they mention drug testing.

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11 points

Bingo. It’s legal here.

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41 points

If he owns vehicles, then he is entitled to exploit people to drive them.

The system has conditioned him to find a way to rationalize that he is victim.

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38 points

He’s entitled to do whatever he wants with his vehicles. That doesn’t mean it’s a good business decision, he’s not entitled to succeed.

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6 points

Well, among good business decisions is exploiting workers. In fact, historically, it is the very best kind.

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-9 points

you are fantasizing

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1 point

Not sure if this is a seethe or cope?

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1 point

it’s just an annoying mess

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30 points

“What’s the pay? Do you do drug tests?”

MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE. DRUG TESTS.

In a lot of cases if you’re driving a vehicle for commercial purposes, DOT requires a pre-employment drug test. Taxi drivers are one of those, and I imagine that’s the regulation he’s under.

I mean, yeah he’s not paying nearly enough to attract people, but the drug tests aren’t entirely up to him.

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4 points

I am a driver in a large metropolis for a medical diagnostics unit. I do not get drug tested, nor have I ever been in finding this employment. That “DOT requirement” is false.

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I don’t know about the class of driver you fall under, but bus drivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, airline pilots and railroad employees are all required by DOT to take a drug test before employment. There are a few other cases where they are also required to have a drug test, such as after an accident.

This case sounds like a taxi, so I’d guess it falls under the rules for taxi drivers.

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23 points

Yeah, it’s the combination that OP was taking issue with. You can’t pay like shit for jobs that require drug testing.

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14 points

This right here.

Shit fucking pay can’t possibly be combined with a drug test. Who the hell (who isn’t a felon or a junkie) would be willing to work for so little?

We’re in the middle of nowhere too. The driver would regularly have to leave the state or drive across the state.

I don’t understand the mindset of these people. He’s losing money for every patient that doesn’t get a ride through his company and he’d seriously rather let the vehicles sit. It makes no sense to me. If he paid good he’d be doing even better. Not as well as he imagines he could be doing robbing people, but still he’d be doing better.

Some joker out there will do it for shit wages and that convinces him there must be more people out there that are ok with being paid so little. He imagines how much money he could have if he’d juuuuust find 10 more suckers to rip off.

Every time I see him coming since that conversation something locks up in me.

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31 points

They are the exact ones sucking musk dick and think he’s the god of capitalism crying that “no one understands the owner of a company is supposed to be rich and everyone is supposed to be homeless but grateful to work for them bloblooobloo .”. Wondering why no one has any empathy for them.

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31 points

He probably started his business when there was cheap labour thanks to the recession, inability to change is the defining trait of these morons.

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