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America, can you explain?

This plan required an act of Congress, the president acted unilaterally and illegally in instituting the plan. The president isn’t a dictator, he must go through congress for quite a number of things.

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Strange though how the previous president doing the exact same thing but with ppp loans for businesses was all fine and dandy. Yes, yes, totally not a political judgement at all, nothing to see here

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the exact same thing but with ppp loans for businesses was all fine and dandy

PPP was specifically authorized via an act of congress, the thing that the current president did not have.

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Sure, but we shouldn’t forget the context here. Why didn’t they go through congress? Because republicans will shoot it down immediately.

I think this is important to explicitly spell this out everytime when someone says that they don’t understand how PPP loans where no problem but student loans forgiveness is unable to pass: The problem are the conservative and republicans. They will rather forgive loans for companies than for their citizens!

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wrong

The president acted as he did and the system of checks and balances played a role.

He is absolutely allowed to do that. It is not “illegal”

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He isn’t going to be put in jail or anything no. He attempted to use a power he does not have. If the president wants this program to become a thing, an act of congress is required.

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I mean, he’s literally not. That’s the whole point of the ruling.

What he did was deemed “illegal” by the court, which means he can’t do it…

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The amount of mental gymnastics this court has used to strike down years of precedent is insane. Can anyone actually still look at their rulings anymore and genuinely say that they aren’t just making rulings based on their personal beliefs and bias? Tomorrow it will be illegal to own gold fish if they decided that was in the bible.

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Except this wasn’t enacted by the president but by the Secretary of Education under the Biden administration and the power was given to them by congress as part of the HEROES act.

If the supreme court wasn’t corrupt, they might have still struck this down but not under the cases that reached the supreme court. The fact that they found the original cases to have standing is actually insane and it’s likely to open a can of worms because they were basically:

“it’s not fair for only certain groups to benefit from government programs.”

Do you know how many things are going to be challenged now? And, for it not to create chaos, these new challenges will have to go to the supreme court again where they will have to do mental gymnastics to backpedal on why their decision applies here but not on whatever weird future cases. Jesus what a circus.

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the power was given to them by congress as part of the HEROES act

It very specifically was not, and that is the issue.

" The HEROES Act … does not allow the Secretary to rewrite that statute to the extent of canceling $430 billion of student loan principal."

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The extent of the power of the HEROES act is debatable and thus why this has reached the supreme court. If you read it, the HEROES act was very vague the begin with, as these things often out in our messed up legal system. Like I said. They could argue against or for the HEROES ability to grant this power and they could easily argue it either way because that’s how our legal system works. But, that they did it with these cases is still insane because the sanding for these cases is wacko.

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The decision is ridiculously ambiguous. The law is garbage, but the ruling is basically “well yeah, you can technically change loans, but not that much!” Congress should immediately repeal the law if it can just be used by the judicial to only implement what THEY want.

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