A Washington state senator was arrested at the airport in Hong Kong and charged with possession of an unregistered firearm, his office said.

Sen. Jeff Wilson, R-Longview, was detained at Hong Kong International Airport on Friday night after he found a pistol in his carry-on bag and reported it to customs officials.

He was released on bail Sunday and faces a hearing Oct. 30.

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Stop deflecting with rehtorical questions. It’s kinda hostile. But, to answer the question anyway, it’s fairly close between motor vehicles, firearms, cancer and just “normal” accidents.

My point, is that you are generalizing a group of people based on the behaviors of a minority. You can call me an idiot to my face for any reason that you would like for anything that I have said. Totally cool. You cannot group me in with a subset of people that you believe are all the same. That is completely unrealistic.

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The person that asked the question was someone other than the person you originally replied to (me).

My comment was just pointing out the truth, all irresponsible gun owners talk like they are responsible gun owners. You might be a responsible gun owner, it doesn’t make what I say any less true.

It also doesn’t change the fact that US guns make their way to my country and people get killed using them and these guns come, in part, from people who called themselves responsible owners and who got their gun(s) stolen.

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Canada should stop exporting alcohol. In my opinion, that is a much more potent killer than guns will ever be.

Crown Royal, and the responsible consumers of that product, should be held responsible for all deaths and domestic abuse caused by their products. The people that get drunk aren’t the issue, so we should just ban alcohol completely.

People who say they are responsible consumers of alcohol are actually not. They actually hide bottles of booze from their family and get completely blitzed whenever they have the chance.


Before you dismiss my example as a false equivalence, and to a degree it is, I can’t help but see your logic as a shift of blame per my example.

If someone gets drunk and beats their kids, that person is at fault. If someone stabs someone else with a knife, that person is also at fault. If your car gets stolen and it is used to run people over, it’s the fault of the thief.

If someone shoots someone else with a stolen gun, it’s now the fault of responsible gun owners who may also be victims of crimes (theft) themselves.

I should also point out that words are not actions. People can say anything they want. If someone says they are responsible and they actually aren’t, that can create a risky situation. Guns aside, that is life in general. If people act irresponsibly, they should be treated as such. If they drink too much, send them to a doctor. If they don’t obey traffic laws, send them to remedial training and suspend their license after that if necessary. If they can’t operate a firearm or follow laws, take their guns.

Also, in my personal experience, irresponsible gun owners talk like irresponsible gun owners. In general, irresponsible people act like irresponsible people which is much easier to identify.

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Alcohol is easy to make at home so no way to realistically ban it, plenty of campaigns to lower it’s consumption.

Knives are necessary to make food and are easy to make at home, already illegal to carry knives over a certain size.

Cars are necessary for personal transportation because of the way our countries are developed, manufacturers are making them safer and harder to steal.

Guns? Neither necessary or easy to make at home, manufacturers make them more efficient at killing, easy to ban.

The only reason these guns exist in Canada is because USA has the gun culture it has, make all guns disappear from the USA and Canada and see how little will illegally make the way inside both countries. The fact that you guys have such easy access to guns is the issue, no matter how safely you store them, if someone enters your house without you noticing, points one at your head and tells you to open your safe to steal your firearms, you’ll do it while pissing your pants and say thank you if they don’t shoot you before leaving.

Sure, people are the issue, the object isn’t. What you guys don’t get is that all people who want to own guns are the issue, not just irresponsible owners.

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It’s not a rhetorical question, and what the fuck is fairly close lol? There is a right answer here, big guy.

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