Hamas’ brutal attacks in Israel on October 7 killed at least 1,400 people and the group took more than 200 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. In the wake of the assault, Israel launched an aerial bombardment of Gaza that Palestinian health officials say has killed more than 5,000 people. Israel also announced a “complete siege” on the enclave, withholding vital supplies of water, food and fuel.

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Why don’t paltestinians work with Israel to get rid of Hamas ASAP?

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Why don’t Palestinians work with their oppressor who tortures them in prison and puts up checkpoints to prevent them from reaching schools and kills them indiscriminately? Gosh I don’t know. What do you think?

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Because the current Israeli government hasn’t wanted to get rid of Hamas. They’ve been using Hamas to weaken the more moderate Palestinian Authority. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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This is a difficult socioeconomic problem. The majority of the Palestinians in the Gaza strip are under 18. They’ve lived a life of nothing but oppression. For the vast majority of people there now, this is the only life they’ve known. And for the adults, they saw a more conciliatory government not give them the life they want.

So within living memory of the population, Hamas won the popular vote, the Palestinian authority was setting up for coup inside of the Gaza strip, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah–Hamas_conflict

And since that coup attempt, there have been no elections in the Gaza strip.

Even presupposing the majority of the children in Gaza wanted to overthrow Hamas, it’s a collective action problem, how many of them are willing to throw their lives away to affect a political change, when they see the real threat as an external one.

Historically, religious fundamentalists thrive in adverse conditions. When the population loses all hope, religion tends to step in, and extreme religion tends to dominate.

Being realistic, the first step to removing Hamas support is giving the population better options. Economic options, education options, religious freedom options. And that’s going to require a lot of work that isn’t military as the ground work

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I think how they’re murdering Palestinian children with blind disregard should tell you their opinion on the palestinian people.

Israel doesn’t care about them, they treat Gaza like a house they wanna move into a Palestinians like an infestation.

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I mean Hamas also does that. Israeli Arabs are imo objectively treated better by Israel than Palestinians by Hamas, despite the fact that they’re also not treated that well.

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Had that been the case they would just level the whole thing and make a new parking lot. You severely underestimate military power Israel poses.

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Have you seen photos from Gaza? Entire neighborhoods are levelled. Houses obliterated. Some districts look like Warsaw in 1945.

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You’ve got real “Why didn’t all the colonised countries rise up against their European colonisers” vibes…

Do you believe they didn’t rise up because they’re genetically inferior? That they deserved suffering and oppression?

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Uh… they did rise up??? Hence why america actually exists.

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America, the nation of Natives.

If you want an example of the colonized successfully overthrowing their colonizers, take Haiti.

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What??? I think you misunderstood what that person was saying.

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Because Hamas is the only organization fighting Israel, or the only one that matters. So given that Israel has no interest in peace, Hamas is their best bet at getting anything done. Remember: The West Bank doesn’t have Hamas, and there are currently honest to God pogroms going on there.

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7 points

Better question, why did Netanyahu fund Hamas?

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Yeah man, they should pull their bootstraps up and just get rid of them man. Just do it. How hard can it be??

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How?

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Kidnap them. Israel would gladly pay 10k$ for each one of them.

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You’re gonna have to pay me more than that to try and kidnap what is essentially a soldier. Do normal Palestinians even have guns or is this even more of a suicide mission than it sounds?

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Why don’t the Palestinians work with Isn’trael to get defanged and become at the mercy of the IDF? That should end them ASAP!

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Because Israel legitimized Hamas, giving them access to external funding and other political rights, so they could ensure less radical non-terrorist groups wouldn’t gain support

Israel’s current administration wants Hamas to be the Palestinian political leaders, because Hamas are terrorists with hardliner demands and a hard on for martyrdom… They’re the worst way to actually accomplish anything politically

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