I’m trying out Obsidian for taking notes, and this made me laugh.

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40 points

I never get the need to use vim and nano exists.

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Vim really is an IDE, not a text editor. It’s usable as an editor but overkill.

Nano serves a difference purpose. It’s like telling someone on a bike that a mustang is better.

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Vim is absolutely not an IDE. It has no integrations with any language. It’s just a powerful text editor. You can add language plugins and configure it to be an IDE.

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That’s what most IDEs are. VS Code doesn’t have any native integrations. Everything is provided by plugins. The default plugins that ship with VS Code can be disabled, and you’ll have just a powerful text editor.

(To do this, go to Extensions tab, click the filter icon, select “Built-in”, and go down the list to disable all of them. Or just build a version with no built-in plugins.)

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No offense intended here - But why is this being upvoted?

vim absolutely is an IDE if that is how you want to use it. Syntax highlighting, linter, language specific autocomplete, integrated sed/regex. And much, much more.

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5 points

It literally has a built in scripting language.

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3 points

Yea, vim really isn’t anything near how useful emacs is.

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@kogasa Hehe, shit, so long done something wrong as I use #vim as an IDE. Okay, some own helpers, some plugins, the direct integration for #golang via LSP and since some time also ChatGPT and Copilot. But hey, it’s no IDE. 🤪

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“Vim is an IDE”

https://www.vim.org/ -> Vim is a highly configurable text editor

Press X to doubt

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9 points

In case of a house fire, I’d only escape with two things: my cat and my .vimrc

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7 points

I guess it depends on if you’re the type of person who sees VSCode as an IDE or just a text editor.

Vim is effectively the same way.

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12 points

Nano is for those that occasionally edit text files from a terminal.

Vim is for those who make a living out of it.

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2 points

There’s a guy on Youtube who does programming language tutorials/demonstrations. Like he starts out with C++ and in one hour you’re at object inheritance, crash courses I guess is the term for them.

He did one video that was as much a Vim tutorial as a tutorial for this language. “Press 3k, then enter, then i, and type “std::out(“whatever C syntax is”)” and then hit escape and…”

For teaching something like a little bit of Python or a little bit of Bash or whatever, I’d rather use Nano, because you can learn how to use it in seconds. Vim is an amazing tool but lord don’t try to cram a Vim tutorial into another already technical tutorial.

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8 points

If you edit files a lot vim is worth its weight in gold. Nano makes me want to kill myself as everything takes so much longer.

Nano is perfectly sufficient for a very rare edit.

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6 points

Vim absolutely chews through anything you throw at it. Lots of times we need data formated or lots of SQL queries and I’m the go to guy because I understand vim macros.

Especially if you have any form of RSI.

I wonder if it would be possible to make a user accessable way to expose similar power to the common user.

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6 points

So like Word vs Notepad?

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Not really, or that doesn’t feel right to my. Word and notepad basically still do the same thing except for that word lets you add style.

Like a manual vs an automatic car, maybe?

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3 points

More like Visual Studio Vs Notepad

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For the pedants, I hope y’all can at least agree that lunarvim is an IDE:

https://www.lunarvim.org/

(Note, a comment saying it’s a “bad IDE” doesn’t make it not an IDE)

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9 points

It just makes a lot of stuff way easier once you know how to use it. Switching out a word for another: two button-presses, duplicating a line: three presses, deleting 500 consecutive lines: five presses

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6 points

What if I want to undo my life’s mistakes.

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6 points

Church of Emacs is always there ;)

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But you can do all that with nano and it is straight forward and you don’t need to memorize any key combinations. I mean, I get it and no judgement here. I just use nano because it’s easy and quick.

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You can also copy paste by manually copying text by hand, would call that a valid alternative to Ctrl-C/V?

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8 points

I never get the need to use a mechanical pencil and graphite pencils exists

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6 points

I’ll level with you: I’m kind of a moron.

If my command line text editor has its own bespoke integrated command line, then science has gone too far and we need to stop lmao

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2 points

😂

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It’s cool. We’ll just write a lua plugin to extend science so that we can go too far enough.

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I’m struggling to see the connection here. I guess I don’t need to fiddle with the mechanical pencil, it breaks very quickly? I don’t want to go through changing those little sticks? Graphite pencil only needs to be sharpened? So, you’re supporting using Nano? I’m a little confused

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Yet many people prefer mechanical pencils. Are you against choice? What is there to get or “need”?

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I don’t understand the need for Ctrl-C/V, when manually copying the text exists. I know it’s snarky, but that’s the level of difference we’re talking about here. Or imagine, to delete a line, someone Right Arrows 50 times, then backspaces 50 times, instead of using the shortcut.

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